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2019 Browns Rant Thread

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Let DePodesta earn his keep, turn it over to him and his crew. Bottom half of the roster should be easily replaceable since the FO screwed this team out of any depth.
 
This season was worse than 2016 or 2017 for me.

At least those two years, as apathetic as they were, you knew deep down the Browns at absolute best were only going to win 3 or 4 times.

Most people had feelings of 9, 10 even 11 wins. To only win 6 feels like genuine coaching malpractice.
 
The 2019 Browns were the most unlike able Cleveland sports team of my lifetime, and I’m 30 years old. The hype was out of control from the beginning, and these dudes thought they arrived before they ever won anything.
 
Not going to happen anytime soon, but I wish Haslam would just sell the team. Top down this organization has been a complete disaster since he bought the team in 2012.

The team has gone 33-94-1 under his ownership. We've seen 5 different head coaches and 4 GMs in that time frame.

Pretty wild to say, but the the franchise was in better hands under Lerner. We're about to have our 6th head coach in 8 years. That's absurd.

This team was hard to watch this year. This might be the fewest games I've ever watched in in a season, including the 0-16 year. They were just difficult to watch. Had it not been for Chubb, it would have been pretty much unwatchable.
 
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At least at the end of last season you sort of felt good about things. What a fkin disaster this season was, absolute vomit.
Come next year we'll be fighting to not be the worst in our division. Cinci will get Burrow, Pitts retool and get lucky, Baltimore will be at the top, then there's us. Happy New Year.
 
I was hoping like hell we get blown out. Don't give any reason to keep Kitchens. I would like to watch football next year. If Freddie's the coach I'm not wasting my time.
 
Most fitting tweet of the current turmoil:


In addition to how bad the other stats have looked even by Browns standards, as many people have noted, some other food for thought:

So, in less than 40% of the STR tenure - 8 out of 21 seasons-, Halslam has presided over nearly 2/3 of the QB jersey's length. With the worst-case scenario of this past season playing out, no guarantee the search is over with Baker.

This is with, compared to even the most recent Jammies era, it being harder for QBs to have lost-time injuries than ever before due to rule changes, and less of a need for "bridge QBs" than before.
 
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Former Browns middle linebacker Demario Davis, now with the Saints and able to play pass defense, made First Team All Pro. We can all agree that is just dandy.
 
Most fitting tweet of the current turmoil:


In addition to how bad the other stats have looked even by Browns standards, as many people have noted, some other food for thought:

So, in less than 40% of the STR tenure - 8 out of 21 seasons-, Halslam has presided over nearly 2/3 of the QB jersey's length. With the worst-case scenario of this past season playing out, no guarantee the search is over with Baker.

This is with, compared to even the most recent Jammies era, it being harder for QBs to have lost-time injuries than ever before due to rule changes, and less of a need for "bridge QBs" than before.

The Venn diagram of fans clamoring for Haslam to sell the team and the fans who were trying to run Lerner out of town is probably really close to a circle.

You had a hands-off owner willing to spend any amount of money it took to build a winner. But, after failure after failure, you had nobody else to blame so the blame traveled upwards.

You now have a hands-on owner, which in every single sport is always a worse thing. Congratulations--you got what you deserved.

Let's just hope this next regime is the right one.
 
Congratulations--you got what you deserved.
Bullshit. Cleveland fans were frustrated and remain frustrated because they continue to support an organization that is the worst in the NFL and likely all of sports despite having one of the most loyal fan bases

Cleveland fans aren’t the reason Lerner sold and they won’t be the reason Haslam does if he is. And on that line of thinking, they aren’t responsible when a GM or coach is fired.

We aren’t paid to make these decisions and the people that are aren’t dumb enough to take fan opinions into consideration. Fans can vent and complain, it doesn’t affect shit and we aren’t the reason Dorsey was fired, Lerner sold the team, etc.

Fans’ actions didn’t Cause any of this mess. Saying Cleveland fans deserve this... dude get off your high horse
 
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Bullshit. Cleveland fans were frustrated and remain frustrated because they continue to support an organization that is the worst in the NFL and likely all of sports despite having one of the most loyal fan bases

Cleveland fans aren’t the reason Lerner sold and they won’t be the reason Haslam does if he is. And on that line of thinking, they aren’t responsible when a GM or coach is fired.

We aren’t paid to make these decisions and the people that are aren’t dumb enough to take fan opinions into consideration. Fans can vent and complain, it doesn’t affect shit and we aren’t the reason Dorsey was fired, Lerner sold the team, etc.

Fans’ actions didn’t Cause any of this mess. Saying Cleveland fans deserve this... dude get off your high horse

I never said the actions caused the result.

The vast majority of Browns fans were calling for Lerner to sell the team before he finally did. We had an owner who was willing to be hands off, spend as much money as needed, and let football guys handle the football operations. But because guys like Holmgren shat the bed and Lerner had the audacity to buy a soccer team, everyone has to throw a bitch fit and call for him to sell the team.

If you ask for something, don't complain when it happens.
 
Cleveland football fans deserve a decade of division championships and a handful of Super Bowl rings.

Who supports a professional team that wins 26% of their games under current ownership? We do/did.
 
The Venn diagram of fans clamoring for Haslam to sell the team and the fans who were trying to run Lerner out of town is probably really close to a circle.

You had a hands-off owner willing to spend any amount of money it took to build a winner. But, after failure after failure, you had nobody else to blame so the blame traveled upwards.

You now have a hands-on owner, which in every single sport is always a worse thing. Congratulations--you got what you deserved.

Let's just hope this next regime is the right one.
It’s our fault for chasing a bad owner out and having the NFL replace him with a worse owner because he’s bad in different ways?
 
It’s our fault for chasing a bad owner out and having the NFL replace him with a worse owner because he’s bad in different ways?
What made Lerner a bad owner?

I'd say he was a good owner whose football personnel failed him. He put established football people in positions to lead the franchise, and they just shat the bed.

Also, to clarify, the whole "get what you deserve" thing isn't saying we deserve a failure of a franchise. A majority of fans asked for something different, and we got it.

I'm not convinced that it's impossible for a franchise to succeed under Jimmy Haslam. But, he's a different type of owner than what we had. One who's "more involved" and all that crap that people flung around in the past to pin blame on Lerner. The things that people were saying felt a lot like the "I want a coach to be fired up on the sidelines!" garbage. Well, here's your boy.
 
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Bullshit. Cleveland fans were frustrated and remain frustrated because they continue to support an organization that is the worst in the NFL and likely all of sports despite having one of the most loyal fan bases

Cleveland fans aren’t the reason Lerner sold and they won’t be the reason Haslam does if he is. And on that line of thinking, they aren’t responsible when a GM or coach is fired.

We aren’t paid to make these decisions and the people that are aren’t dumb enough to take fan opinions into consideration. Fans can vent and complain, it doesn’t affect shit and we aren’t the reason Dorsey was fired, Lerner sold the team, etc.

Fans’ actions didn’t Cause any of this mess. Saying Cleveland fans deserve this... dude get off your high horse
 

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