2019 Draft, Pick #30 - Kevin Porter Jr., USC

[inliner311]

I said early on that the Cavs FO didn’t have anybody that could relate to the kid. That’s why he couldn’t get and stay on track. I still agree with the decision to move from him but this does show that the Cavs FO lacks in “real” leadership

You see this stuff with kids who have ADHD and other learning disabilities. Schools know that helping them usually involves finding the right person who connects with the kid. They usually move kids around and aren't stuck on the person who was initially assign to them being the person who helps them out all year.

I wouldn't be surprised if KPJ tuned out JBB after he took a special interest in him. He might have been fine with JBB being his head coach but once JBB wanted to be his go to coach it could have rubbed him the wrong way.

 

[Real Deal]

Stupid fuck Koby Altman.

Ok I'm done for the night

 

[BigZ94]

Stupid fuck Koby Altman.

Ok I'm done for the night

Hes got to be fired right? Signing Kevin to the 120 mil, giving away a young guy for free who just went for 50, terrible coaching hiring, trading Kyrie for a fat Jae Crowder, hobbled IT and the 8th pick in the draft? Signing Cedi? I guess his drafting has been ok but goddamn

 

[mAo_mAo]

We fucked up, no?

 

[Pierre Pan]

We made the right choice. He's not going to be able to get it together. He'll be out of the league in two years tops.

Well , he just joined LeBron James, Devin Booker and Brandon Jennings as the only NBA players to score 50 before turning 21. Ugh.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...evin-porter-jr-fifth-youngest-score-50-points

 

[Cavatt]

I said it before. The cavs were in no position to give away talent. That ended up being a hasty decision after winning a big game against the Nets

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

His advanced stats are not good. Scrub.

Next!

 

[ShawnKempIsMyDad]

It’s one game. Two years, he’ll be out of the league. I’ll also bring up the point where is Brandon Jennings at this point in his career? The guy is a head case that is one bad decision away from messing it all up. He’s proven it’s not a stretch for him to do that as well.

Well , he just joined LeBron James, Devin Booker and Brandon Jennings as the only NBA players to score 50 before turning 21. Ugh.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...evin-porter-jr-fifth-youngest-score-50-points

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

It’s one game. Two years, he’ll be out of the league. I’ll also bring up the point where is Brandon Jennings at this point in his career? The guy is a head case that is one bad decision away from messing it all up. He’s proven it’s not a stretch for him to do that as well.

I wasn't really serious.. but thanks for the like

Anyhow, in a more serious note, I was a big Porter guy, but i'm not going to get all worked up after every good game he has, or at all. What's done is done, this franchise needs to take a hard long look on how they want to proceed from here. GM wise and Coaching wise.

 

[ansatsusha80]

Hes got to be fired right? Signing Kevin to the 120 mil, giving away a young guy for free who just went for 50, terrible coaching hiring, trading Kyrie for a fat Jae Crowder, hobbled IT and the 8th pick in the draft? Signing Cedi? I guess his drafting has been ok but goddamn

Why people continue to blame Koby for signing Love when it was the owner,who did it....

 

[inliner311]

I said it before. The cavs were in no position to give away talent. That ended up being a hasty decision after winning a big game against the Nets

What's crazy is they basically declared victory on creating a good culture 15 games into the season. I bet if they guaged how good the culture is today, it wouldn't be any better than the average of how it's been for the last 2.5 years.

Talent and winning build culture and sustain it. The front office was fooling themselves that they had enough talent. I don't even think the Cavs are better today than they were a year ago despite the growth of Sexton and Garland. Cedi has regressed, Windler still hasn't played many games, Love is a shell of his old self, Nance can't stay healthy, and Okoro looks like he is going to have a slow/long development process.

 

[Ohioplayer00]

Why people continue to blame Koby for signing Love when it was the owner,who did it....

No! Don’t put the signing of Love on Gilbert! The GM makes the recommendations to the owner to sign, trade for or buy out! The owner just signs off on the deal.
This is why I didn’t like the hiring of Altman in the first place. I DO put the hiring of Altman on Gilbert because he went the cheap way of hiring a GM who would take small change to do the job!
I’m not saying he messed up letting Porter go but I do blame him for not doing all that he could by putting the right people around the kid like Houston has done.

 

[Lee]

I said it before. The cavs were in no position to give away talent. That ended up being a hasty decision after winning a big game against the Nets

Wasnt a hasty decision, they were trying to save a kids life, looks like they might of ended up saving 2 lives because of the trade. Houston was the target because of John Lucas. They thought they could handle the mental illness issues because of Love, they couldnt get through, the kid needed a life boat and John Lucas is the best at that.

It was not a basketball decision. If you dont want to understand this, that is fine, but you cant understand the move without realizing there was so much more going on that never made it out to the media and they LOVED his talent and were trying to do right by the kid and save him from killing himself in one way or another.

We really need to move on, but I know we wont.

 

[Cavatt]

Wasnt a hasty decision, they were trying to save a kids life, looks like they might of ended up saving 2 lives because of the trade. Houston was the target because of John Lucas. They thought they could handle the mental illness issues because of Love, they couldnt get through, the kid needed a life boat and John Lucas is the best at that.

It was not a basketball decision. If you dont want to understand this, that is fine, but you cant understand the move without realizing there was so much more going on that never made it out to the media and they LOVED his talent and were trying to do right by the kid and save him from killing himself in one way or another.

We really need to move on, but I know we wont.

I mean for me that is the whole problem. They approached this like he was their child instead of their employee. They micromanaged it and got him to think of them as "slave-owners". Instead of letting the law run its course they apparently covered some stuff up to "protect him". I'd rather he got some punishment and was with the team than this. HE was my favorite player on the team. So yeah I am upset.

Should have let the NBA suspend him or not, and get on with his basketball life. Instead they became the adversary in a battle of wills.

This is the most extreme version of this, but do you think the Bulls would have been smart to trade Jordan when he got in trouble with the mafia for gambling?

I just can't give the front office the benefit of the doubt when they keep fucking up the ego management part of this job, which is a big part of the job.

 

[PIP]

Yawn! I can do that