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Darius Kinnard Garland

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What is Darius Garland's Ceiling?

  • One Time All-Star

    Votes: 14 8.8%
  • Occasional All-Star

    Votes: 19 11.9%
  • 5-6 Time All-Star

    Votes: 31 19.5%
  • Perennial All-Star

    Votes: 40 25.2%
  • An All-NBA Team or Two

    Votes: 22 13.8%
  • Perennial All-NBA Teamer

    Votes: 20 12.6%
  • Occasional MVP Candidate

    Votes: 11 6.9%
  • Perennial MVP Candidate

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • MVP, Baby!

    Votes: 10 6.3%
  • Being Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 8.2%

  • Total voters
    159
Like the 9 assist and a clutch steal? Then 10 straight basketI
I meant throughout his cold stretch when our 13 point lead vanished. He did close out the game extremely well and I hope that we will see more of that Garland in the future. But, I was speaking about completely different thing. That you dont need to be taking ten shots and missing them all in a span of around 7 minutes as a point guard. That a great point guard will realize that he can help his team in other ways, when his shot is not falling. Of course, he is still very young, with little NBA experience so I am sure he will learn from these type of situations.
 
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Appreciate all the warm feelings and everything, but you people talking about trading Sexton are out of your fucking minds.
Not really. If they both have to start then one of them has to go, eventually. They’re not suggesting trading Sexton without getting a good piece in return. Garland seems to potentially be a more versatile offensive player who can actually run an offense.
 
I meant throughout his cold stretch when our 13 point lead vanished. He did close out the game extremely well and I hope that we will see more of that Garland in the future. But, I was speaking about completely different thing. That you dont need to be taking ten shots and missing them all in a span of around 7 minutes as a point guard. That a great point guard will realize that he can help his team in other ways when his shot is not falling. Of course, he is still very young, with little NBA experience so I am sure he will learn from these type of situations.
When Garland is on the floor with some combination of Allen, Okoro, Wade, Windler, Osman and Dotson he's out there with four guys who don't really create their own shot. How often do you see any of them get the ball and just try to beat their man individually? Sometimes Dotson if he gets matched up on a slower guy. Even Allen mostly scores on offensive rebounds, lobs, and passes off dribble penetration.

Garland's job is to break down the defense. Allen or McGee sets the screen and he goes around it with four options; lob to Allen, runner in the lane, kick to the corner, or continue to the rim for a layup. If the opponent's big man rolls with Allen, which he'd be crazy not to do, and if the pass to the corner is cut off, Garland has to take the floater in the lane or a layup. He can't just throw a bad pass because he missed a few shots. If that's what the defense is giving him he has to take it. He was just missing some floaters he usually makes, but then started making them in crunch time.
 
It's always an 'either or' with some fans when it comes to Sexland. I enjoy watching both players when they are on. Maybe the Cavs just need to find a 3rd facilitating big guard that can play with both of them which is why alot of us liked Haliburton in the last draft. Dotson does a good job playing with both. The Lonzo train has probably left the station but Dinwiddie could likely be had. Imagine having a 3 guard interchangeable lineup of Sexton, Garland, and Dinwiddie. Two of them could always be on the floor at one time. Instead of just dealing one of our guards I would hope Koby is thinking outside the box to make them work.
 
I meant throughout his cold stretch when our 13 point lead vanished. He did close out the game extremely well and I hope that we will see more of that Garland in the future. But, I was speaking about completely different thing. That you dont need to be taking ten shots and missing them all in a span of around 7 minutes as a point guard. That a great point guard will realize that he can help his team in other ways, when his shot is not falling. Of course, he is still very young, with little NBA experience so I am sure he will learn from these type of situations.
that 3rd qtr was rough for both guards. they responded well later, which is progress, but the Cavs need a PG they can bring in to calm the storms and get the ball to other guys when Sexland starts getting tunnel vision like that.
 
It's always an 'either or' with some fans when it comes to Sexland. I enjoy watching both players when they are on. Maybe the Cavs just need to find a 3rd facilitating big guard that can play with both of them which is why alot of us liked Haliburton in the last draft. Dotson does a good job playing with both. The Lonzo train has probably left the station but Dinwiddie could likely be had. Imagine having a 3 guard interchangeable lineup of Sexton, Garland, and Dinwiddie. Two of them could always be on the floor at one time. Instead of just dealing one of our guards I would hope Koby is thinking outside the box to make them work.
I don't get the Dinwiddie love. He'll be 28 next month and is in his seventh pro season, so he is what he is. His career shooting percentage is 41.0% and 30.8% on 3's - that's where Okoro is right now. Dinwiddie averages 5.0 assists per game which is OK but hardly impressive. He'll make $13.2 million next year.

I just don't see how he makes us better. He would replace Dotson as the third guard. Dotson is a year younger and has better shooting percentages both overall and on 3's. Dotson will make $2 million next year if the Cavaliers pick up their option.

Even if the Cavs want Dinwiddie I don't know if they have the cap space to pay the $11 million difference between his contract and Dotson's. And I don't see how they get an extra $11 million worth of value even if they are willing to pay the luxury tax to get this guy.
 
I don't get the Dinwiddie love. He'll be 28 next month and is in his seventh pro season, so he is what he is. His career shooting percentage is 41.0% and 30.8% on 3's - that's where Okoro is right now. Dinwiddie averages 5.0 assists per game which is OK but hardly impressive. He'll make $13.2 million next year.

I just don't see how he makes us better. He would replace Dotson as the third guard. Dotson is a year younger and has better shooting percentages both overall and on 3's. Dotson will make $2 million next year if the Cavaliers pick up their option.

Even if the Cavs want Dinwiddie I don't know if they have the cap space to pay the $11 million difference between his contract and Dotson's. And I don't see how they get an extra $11 million worth of value even if they are willing to pay the luxury tax to get this guy.
If I’m hunting a new, taller, backup guard, I’m looking for a Shamet type. Can play point or 2, younger, reasonable contract. Could possibly grow with the young core. If it doesn’t work out, wouldn’t be expensive or hard to move on from.
 
I hope he can figure it out and work out long term.

The bar is really, really low in this thread currently. I can point to any random game on any random night and find a point guard producing at this level.

I'll just leave it at that.
 
Not really. If they both have to start then one of them has to go, eventually. They’re not suggesting trading Sexton without getting a good piece in return. Garland seems to potentially be a more versatile offensive player who can actually run an offense.
Actually neither of them need to be traded but one of them need to be moved to the bench. So an upgrade at either position is gravy for the Cavs
 
Do you guys know Darius Garland has played 85 professional games in his NBA career? And only 3 games in college? He's gonna have lots of ups and downs, but has a ton of good things to work with. IF Sexland needs to be broken up, the Sex should be the one to go (sorry).

Makes sense, in almost all marriage break ups, sex is the one to go.
 

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