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Darius Kinnard Garland

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What is Darius Garland's Ceiling?

  • One Time All-Star

    Votes: 14 8.8%
  • Occasional All-Star

    Votes: 19 11.9%
  • 5-6 Time All-Star

    Votes: 31 19.5%
  • Perennial All-Star

    Votes: 40 25.2%
  • An All-NBA Team or Two

    Votes: 22 13.8%
  • Perennial All-NBA Teamer

    Votes: 20 12.6%
  • Occasional MVP Candidate

    Votes: 11 6.9%
  • Perennial MVP Candidate

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • MVP, Baby!

    Votes: 10 6.3%
  • Being Jim Chones

    Votes: 13 8.2%

  • Total voters
    159
This isn't really true...Real finished the season on a 25-2 run in games Doncic played, finishing their season with Euroleague and ACB league championships. He hit one of the most spectacular clutch shots I've ever seen to clinch the ACB championship just two days before the draft. Of course, he wasn't perfect in every single game, but overall he was the clear best player on arguably one of the best teams in European basketball history.


I think he shot well below .500 for the last 10 games or so for the Euroleague with a couple of 3-12, 4-11 nights to finish that part of the season for them.
I have and am a big Luka fan but this what teams scouting reports pointed as concerns. Those concerns turned out to be unfounded :shrug:
 
When I draft over in my head, I just can't think of who else I would have wanted is the real problem. I was seriously thinking about KPJ lol. Really more if we traded with the Hawks. I was very leery of Rui due to age and inexperience. Herro was not on the radar. I felt like I had more wants in the middle of the draft. I would have taken Langford where he went. I thought Culver to help Collin with Playmaking.

Who did you want with #5?

I had Zion alone in tier 1 of my board, and then Morant alone in tier 2 of my board. After that I had a really fuzzy 3rd tier which included Goga, Grant Williams, and Culver, who I liked as good/great roleplayers with somewhat limited upside, and Bol, Horton-Tucker, Claxton, and Barrett, who I saw as really interesting boom/bust prospects. Naturally, I probably would've traded down, since I could easily get two or three of those guys with the value of the 5th pick.

I think he shot well below .500 for the last 10 games or so for the Euroleague with a couple of 3-12, 4-11 nights to finish that part of the season for them.
I have and am a big Luka fan but this what teams scouting reports pointed as concerns. Those concerns turned out to be unfounded :shrug:

58% true shooting for his last 10 Euroleague games, just 1% below his season average. The people who talked about some unspecified "decline" in his quality of play leading up to the draft were people who never believed in him in the first place.
 
I'm not dismissing this draft as a whole is what i'm saying. Yes, it's extremely rare to see so many high lottery picks play so badly, but we should see how they all look in a few months or a year, especially Garland who has had the least amount of experience and came back from a meniscus surgery.
We are a quarter of the way through their rookie year. People are overreacting to a crazy degree.
 
They didn't draft Garland expecting him to be a day one star. He has range that will play but he needs to learn a lot to be an impact guy. Let him reach legal drinking age before he is considered a bust.
 
To add to the Hollinger assessment...Many of you love Jason Lloyd and as a guest today on 92.3 The Fan he said from was he’s seen from Garland he’s not impressed and he’s been terrible.

Garland has been awful.

Jason Lloyds coverage of the Cavs for the last two+ years has, somehow, been worse.

Hes pretty bad now.
 
He had his spots tonight. He has elite lateral speed. He is just too weak. More engaged defensively and did a better job on Fultz at times.
 
Garland needs 15-25 shots when he starts. They gotta push that. This feels like a pecking order system and it sucks.
 
Garland needs 15-25 shots when he starts. They gotta push that. This feels like a pecking order system and it sucks.

I'm not even sure it's Beilein and the coaching staff holding Garland back from taking more shots. I think it could be Garland himself. He isn't assertive or aggressive enough.

Maybe running him with the second unit alittle more where he might think he is better than the other guys will get his confidence up and he will put up more shots.
 
Garland needs a lot of development which is not too surprising with a one and doner that barely played college basketball. I'm not worried about his shooting but more his decision making. Sounds like a simple thing but this affects everything from setting up the offense to passing to shot selection. He needs work on all of it.

A lot of people complain if Delly gets more than 5 minutes of playing time but the things he does is exactly what Garland needs to learn.
 
Garland needs a lot of development which is not too surprising with a one and doner that barely played college basketball. I'm not worried about his shooting but more his decision making. Sounds like a simple thing but this affects everything from setting up the offense to passing to shot selection. He needs work on all of it.

A lot of people complain if Delly gets more than 5 minutes of playing time but the things he does is exactly what Garland needs to learn.

I think people (me included) complain when Delly gets more than 5 minutes is because it's time Garland and Sexton can go up against 2nd units and work on being a PG without having to share the floor with each other.

I think the organization did Garland a disservice by starting him from game 1. It would have been alot easier for him to transition if he was going against 2nd units. I bet he would have alot more confidence right now and they could have slowly put him in against starters.
 
Garland needs a lot of development which is not too surprising with a one and doner that barely played college basketball. I'm not worried about his shooting but more his decision making. Sounds like a simple thing but this affects everything from setting up the offense to passing to shot selection. He needs work on all of it.

And I would have expected that something like this would have been true 20 games into his rookie season.

What alarms me is his lack of quickness. If you're a 6'1" PG in today's NBA, then you'd better be able to blow by defenders at will. Garland can't. I'm hoping it is because he is still getting back to speed after two knee surgeries and almost an entire year away. I'm increasingly concerned that it is because he just doesn't have that gear.
 

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