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Kevalier

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Alonso being as phenomenal as advertised kind of forces the Mets to move Dominic Smith, right?
 

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Rosenthal said teams may cool on Bauer because he's expected to command around $20 million in arbitration this off-season much like Price did back in 2014
 

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Guys I'm good with having in the lineup during a stretch run:

C - Perez
1B - Santana
2B -
3B - Ramirez
SS - Lindor
LF -
CF - Mercado
RF - Naquin/Luplow
DH -

I'm also comfortable with Bauers slotting in somewhere whether it's DH or LF. I'm ok with Kipnis at 2B if we're able to pick up a guy at another position.

So, really we have the ability to add any hitter regardless of position because our DH spot is pretty fluid.
 

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I wonder if there is any real possibility that Houston would give up Kyle Tucker for Bauer.
 

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We’re going to be tremendously disappointed in the market for Bauer.

He simply hasn’t been good enough to warrant the return he should.

We keep waiting for it, me as much as anyone else.

Plus he’ll be owed $20+ million next year. Why would a team go out and give up a Top 50 prospect for him?

I’m beginning to align with the belief that he won’t be moved.
 

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The competitor in me doesn't want to move Bauer at all, period, so long as we're chasing the Twins or a WC spot. I damn sure don't want to trade him to a team like the Yankees or Astros who we could possibly meet in the playoffs. I've been going back and forth on this, but the position we're in now--considering what happened in the off-season and then to 3/5 of our starting pitching--is a godsend. Play ball w/o making a major move, get young guys like Mercado, Bauers, Bieber, and even Bradley some playoff experience, or even playoff chase experience, and wait until the off-season to try to move Bauer.

I get the argument "We're in no way prepared to compete in the playoffs, so why not move Bauer now?" but I think getting there is valuable for our development. Bauer's good enough that he helps us get there. Trade him and it's a white flag, sends the wrong message to our young core. (Now, if we sink like a stone in the next couple weeks, it won't matter.) As much as I liked seeing Kluber and Cookie playing catch, I don't think we can count on either of them coming back this season.

I'm with other posters, though: If we're getting a top-flight OF/2B under control for at least 2 years or a top-of-the-line prospect(s) for Bauer, maybe I can swallow my pride.

But even then, the problem is this:

He simply hasn’t been good enough to warrant the return he should.

...he’ll be owed $20+ million next year. Why would a team go out and give up a Top 50 prospect for him?
If I'm the Yankees or Astros, where am I slotting in Bauer? #3? #4? Both teams are in the Top 10 in ERA and the Astros are #1 in BAA. How much better is Bauer really going to make their SP, and is it worth $20 mill AND high-level prospects?

Yanks don't mind the cash, but would probably lowball us on the prospects. Frazier (not exactly a prospect, I realize) doesn't do it for me.

Astros have prospects to spare, but Bauer's salary would seem prohibitive...and again, how much does he really help them? He's a quintessential #3-4 guy in your rotation. While he's matured since the drone incident, he hasn't been dependable enough to become a true #1-2 guy. Essentially he'd function as insurance, expensive insurance, for most of the teams that might afford him.

Maybe the Nationals would be buyers since they're trying to hold on to a wild card spot (or catch the Braves, unlikely), but I know zilch about their farm system or existing salaries.

I'll admit, it'd be fun seeing Bauer deal with NY fans and media, tho'.
 
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I think you’ve been spoiled by our own starting pitching if you think Bauer is a quintessential 3-4 guy.

Hell, we have one of the best staffs in the league, and he’s been either a 1 or 2 for the last two years.
 

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I think you’ve been spoiled by our own starting pitching if you think Bauer is a quintessential 3-4 guy.

Hell, we have one of the best staffs in the league, and he’s been either a 1 or 2 for the last two years.
Spoiled? Maybe. You can make an argument for him being a #2. He's always had the stuff, always had the potential to be an ace, but he's never grown into someone you can rely on day in, day out like Kluber and Cookie to a slightly lesser degree. My definition of a true #1 or #2 guy is this: Would you want him opening a World Series or trying to close one out? Bauer? No way. I don't trust him to go out and do the job. He is what he is.
 

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Spoiled? Maybe. You can make an argument for him being a #2. He's always had the stuff, always had the potential to be an ace, but he's never grown into someone you can rely on day in, day out like Kluber and Cookie to a slightly lesser degree. My definition of a true #1 or #2 guy is this: Would you want him opening a World Series or trying to close one out? Bauer? No way. I don't trust him to go out and do the job. He is what he is.
I most definitely would. He’s been very good in big games the last few years. Him and Carrasco (if healthy) would be my big game choices.

There aren’t 25 better starting pitchers in the league, so at worst he’s a top tier #2 starter.

Also, he would hands down be the Yankees #1 starter.
 

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If I'm the Yankees or Astros, where am I slotting in Bauer? #3? #4?
Bauer would be the ace of the Yankees staff considering Severino has not pitched all year.

He'd slot in as the #3 in Houston, but that is more of a testament to how great Cole and Verlander are. As well as Miley has pitched for Houston this year, there is still a big gap between what he and Bauer would bring to the table. Bauer would also provide insurance to Houston in the event that Cole gets snatched away by the Yankees or someone else in the offseason- he is going to get huge money from someone. Plus, Miley and McHugh are free agents.
 

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If Bauer didn't get hurt last year, he was the favorite for the Cy Young. Even factoring in the injury, he pitched only 5 fewer innings than Snell, while putting up exactly the same amount of strikeouts, fewer walks, fewer HR's, similar WHIP, similar amount of earned runs allowed.

Here's a guy who was arguably the second best pitcher in baseball behind DeGrom and you're saying he's a #3-#4? @Derek hit the nail on the head with the "spoiled" comment. Or maybe it's just the irrational hate for Bauer a bunch of Indians fans have had since day 1 because he's different.
 

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The last time Bauer started on regular rest in the playoffs:
6.2 IP
0 R
1 BB
2 H
8 K

2017 vs the Yankees

He was so incredible that day, and really outside of a rough May where he got lit up by Baltimore and the White Sox, he's been great this year.
 

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The last time Bauer started on regular rest in the playoffs:
6.2 IP
0 R
1 BB
2 H
8 K

2017 vs the Yankees

He was so incredible that day, and really outside of a rough May where he got lit up by Baltimore and the White Sox, he's been great this year.
What a performance that was. Pin point breaking balls vs. Judge

Edit- Even with the 3-1 World Series lead, to me, 2017 will always feel like the one that got away

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUjL44Lat30
 

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If Bauer didn't get hurt last year, he was the favorite for the Cy Young. Even factoring in the injury, he pitched only 5 fewer innings than Snell, while putting up exactly the same amount of strikeouts, fewer walks, fewer HR's, similar WHIP, similar amount of earned runs allowed.

Here's a guy who was arguably the second best pitcher in baseball behind DeGrom and you're saying he's a #3-#4? @Derek hit the nail on the head with the "spoiled" comment. Or maybe it's just the irrational hate for Bauer a bunch of Indians fans have had since day 1 because he's different.
The problem is 2018 is the clear outlier to the rest of Bauer's career. I think we all hoped last year was him making the leap, but he's still struggled with walks and he's still giving up too many long balls. With that said, he's still really good and incredibly durable, and that brings a lot of value to any team.
 

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Anthony Castrovince proposed this in a column today:

Milwaukee gets: RHP Trevor Bauer

Cleveland gets: OF Trey Mancini; RHP Dylan Bundy and RHP Mychal Givens

Baltimore gets: SS Brice Turang, OF Tristen Lutz, RHP Zack Brown, C Mario Feliciano, RHP Nick Sandlin and SS Marcos Gonzalez
 
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