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Michigan State is already all virtual. Minnesota is now talking about delaying move in and starting classes online. I don't think it will be long until alot of the big 10 is all virtual.

 

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Michigan State is already all virtual. Minnesota is now talking about delaying move in and starting classes online. I don't think it will be long until alot of the big 10 is all virtual.

Obligatory "but you can still have the players on campus!!1! bubble!" idea, which I'm not sure is completely a bad idea, but needs a lot of qualifiers. I still don't get

The rest of your post was true, but this point is very key.

We’re learning on what we can and can’t do. We have been the whole time. However, most places/people are ignoring what we’ve learned in order to think we could achieve some sort of “normalcy.”

If we went by the recommendations of scientists and epidemiologists, I don’t think you’d find too many that would say the best idea would be to get kids from all over the country and put them into close spaces where they have to share bathrooms, showers, sinks, etc.
Well, some of the scientists/epidemiologists will tell you that there is a tradeoff, and that it is also harmful to these kids to take away a game they love and that a lot of their future depends on for many of them.'

Although I disagree with the Harbaugh quote that there will actually be more COVID without NCAA football than with it - given it's, you know, a high-contact sport interacting with ~1000+ outsiders over a season - there are a host of other problems that come about without it.

There has to be a good solution that doesn't involve the "herd immunity at all costs, and no masks or distancing whatsoever" school of thought at the other end of the spectrum, that Alex Berenson et. al. are pushing.
 

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I'm not so sure why it seems incredible that the AD's weren't part of the conference calls with the chancellors/president. Each AD had the chance to say everything they wanted to their own Chancellor/President, who is their boss, and convince him/her to support fall football. They overwhelmingly failed to convince their own bosses. The bosses then met and made the decision.

I think too many sports pundits believe the shibboleth that it is "really" the AD's or football that control colleges, and they can't get it through their CTE-addled brains that it isn't true. The people who actually run those schools have a whole shitload of more important stuff on their plates than sports, and may well have decided that the optics of a double-standard of safety just for football players was not something they wanted to be dealing with. So even if the AD's all thought "yes, we can do this if we do 'x'", the Chancellors/Presidents weren't willing to do 'x', so it was a non-starter.

Can't say I blame them. As a parent with a kid in college, I'm not happy with the idea that an athlete is more deserving of protection from Covid than is any other student.
 

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I'm not so sure why it seems incredible that the AD's weren't part of the conference calls with the chancellors/president. Each AD had the chance to say everything they wanted to their own Chancellor/President, who is their boss, and convince him/her to support fall football. They overwhelmingly failed to convince their own bosses. The bosses then met and made the decision.

I think too many sports pundits believe the shibboleth that it is "really" the AD's or football that control colleges, and they can't get it through their CTE-addled brains that it isn't true. The people who actually run those schools have a whole shitload of more important stuff on their plates than sports, and may well have decided that the optics of a double-standard of safety just for football players was not something they wanted to be dealing with. So even if the AD's all thought "yes, we can do this if we do 'x'", the Chancellors/Presidents weren't willing to do 'x', so it was a non-starter.

Can't say I blame them. As a parent with a kid in college, I'm not happy with the idea that an athlete is more deserving of protection from Covid than is any other student.
Agree with everything you said.

Also completely possible that the AD's said "We can play this year if we have $XXX to be able to protect athletes and staff," and the Presidents simply said we don't have the extra money to give you for that purpose.

I can be in favor of owning a Lamborghini, but if I don't have a quarter-million dollars to buy it then I'm not going to own the Lamborghini.

Also, for athletic departments that are self-funding, the universities don't have to budget any additional funds. That means if you suddenly lose a significant portion of your budget from not being able to have fans in the stadium, then you're going to have to go back to the university to ask for money to allow these other sports to happen.
 

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Agree with everything you said.

Also completely possible that the AD's said "We can play this year if we have $XXX to be able to protect athletes and staff," and the Presidents simply said we don't have the extra money to give you for that purpose.

I can be in favor of owning a Lamborghini, but if I don't have a quarter-million dollars to buy it then I'm not going to own the Lamborghini.

Also, for athletic departments that are self-funding, the universities don't have to budget any additional funds. That means if you suddenly lose a significant portion of your budget from not being able to have fans in the stadium, then you're going to have to go back to the university to ask for money to allow these other sports to happen.
I suspect you're right about the costs as well. While football obviously is a revenue-producing sport within the Big10, the bosses may have been unwilling to greenlight football only, which means they'd have to deal with the costs and precautions for all those other sports in addition to football, and they just weren't willing to do that.

Bottom line is that I don't think the schools were willing to give football the degree of preferential treatment inherent in the ADs' suggestions for how the season could be played.
 
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This week was critical to finalize an agreement. Where was this last week when it was clear they were running out the clock?
Word is the vote is going to be sometime this weekend. Perhaps this is a final push?
 

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I thought I saw it looks like the conference won’t have enough teams that are agreeable to playing?
 

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I wish the worst possible things in life onto Kevin Warren. Fuck that guy.
 
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