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2020 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

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All well and good for those conferences to swing their dicks right now. Let’s see where things stand in a couple of weeks.
 
Ultimately, the decisions will be made by the University Presidents or perhaps even Boards of Trustees, not by the coaches or AD's. The tails aren't going to wag the dogs. Except perhaps in the SEC. :chuckle:

Some of these major coaches make more money than most of these Presidents and, in many ways, have more power.
 
Some of these major coaches make more money than most of these Presidents and, in many ways, have more power.

Again, SEC.....

Otherwise, we know that a bunch of very powerful and highly paid coaches who wanted to play football didn't get what they wanted.
 
Again, SEC.....

Otherwise, we know that a bunch of very powerful and highly paid coaches who wanted to play football didn't get what they wanted.

It's early days.

Let's see what happens when the SEC and Big 12 play. If it goes off w/o a hitch, then you might suddenly see some of these Presidents losing jobs when their high powered coaches throw them under the bus for losing out on recruits.
 
I feel like the Big 10 and PAC 12 also must of been in communication with the governor's of their states to see how many places might have fans. Based on what the NFL has put out on who might have fans, both those conferences wouldn't have had much of a chance to have fans. Indy 500 pulling fans may have been the nail for the Big 10.

PAC 12 only chances of having fans may have been Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State. All the west coast states weren't going to have it and Colorado would have followed suit.

Big 10 may have been more complicated but Rutgers, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Maryland, and Illinois would probably not had fans. I think Ohio State could have gone either way but leaning toward no. IU and Purdue probably wouldn't have had fans after not allowing the Indy 500 to have fans. I'd say the rest would have been up in the air.
 
Let's see what happens when the SEC and Big 12 play. If it goes off w/o a hitch, then you might suddenly see some of these Presidents losing jobs when their high powered coaches throw them under the bus for losing out on recruits.


Well, in the power struggle between most coaches and Presidents, the coaches lost. Saying that the Presidents may get fired if they turned out in the end to be wrong doesn't mean the coaches have more power. That just means that being wrong has consequences. The same thing would be true if the coaches won over the Presidents, the coaches turned out to be wrong, and then the coach was fired. That wouldn't mean the Presidents were more powerful -- just that the coach's faced the wrath of the Board of Trustees for being wrong.

If coaches ran colleges, they'd never be fired. Yet it happens all the time.
 
I’d have to imagine none of this will matter once students return to campus, classes start, and so do the inevitable off campus parties.

If we’re seeing professional athletes going out and breaking protocols, why are we expecting that college athletes won’t do the same? Kids are going to be kids, no matter what type of pledges or documents you have them sign.

Not to mention, student-athletes have to interact with the general population to go to class.
I lived on OSU’s campus for six years. The second the students return and there were football games even without fans the kegs parties and after game parties would be insane as usual. I still don’t think there will be any college football this fall. The BIG were the first conference to declare conference only games and other conferences followed suit. Have to imagine it’s going to be the same with canceling football this fall.
 
I lived on OSU’s campus for six years. The second the students return and there were football games even without fans the kegs parties and after game parties would be insane as usual. I still don’t think there will be any college football this fall. The BIG were the first conference to declare conference only games and other conferences followed suit. Have to imagine it’s going to be the same with canceling football this fall.

Yeah, to put this into perspective. Unless universities completely changed how they selected dorm rooms simply for the pandemic, I have no idea how it wouldn’t eventually spread to sports teams.

-I was in the dorms at OU from 03-05.
-I lived on West Green where all the athletes stayed. Both years I lived in Boyd Hall, which was a 4 story co-ed dorm.
-First three floors were split down the middle, half guys / half girls. Top floor was all girls (pretty sweet setup :)

On my floor:
-My next door neighbors were football players and there were 5 other football players on my floor.
-There were 5 basketball players
-At least 4 baseball players
-3 members of the golf team
-4 Volleyball players
-A minimum of 5 men’s and women’s track & field athletes
-A few women’s soccer players

I’m sure I’m probably missing some here, but that was just on my floor. If people lived on different areas of campus where there were no athletes, they would never understand how this was setup.

So, we consider all those athletes in a dorm mixed amongst regular students. Now think about this:

On my floor, for whatever reason there was this big mural of Spiderman, Batman, and a bunch of other super heroes. Well, there was a group of two or three people who were so lazy, ignorant, and inconsiderate that when they got drunk, instead of walking the 50-100 ft to go pee in a toilet, they found it funny to pee on the Spiderman painting. Eventually the painting became so yellow that the staff had to paint over the whole thing in an attempt to stop these guys from doing it.

Also, the same year (likely the same people) there was a span of time where people were taking shits and leaving them on a paper plate in front of people‘s doors.

We also had to have a floor meeting because people were too lazy to take their trash downstairs and were instead leaving bags in the stairwell.

These people are at every university, and this was just one dorm. All it takes is a handful of inconsiderate people to wreck it for everyone else.
 
Dunno what keeps Justin Fields here if the SEC/ACC play, if he has aspirations of being a top 10 pick next year.

If those conferences play, and nothing terrible happens, this could set the Big Ten back for years and years and years. THey'll lose players in the transfer portal, they'll lose revenue, they'll lose recruits.

I'm sure they are on their knees praying the SEC/ACC/Big 12 follow them.

Even more reason why it was stupid to cancel this early. Now, they're leaving their fate in the hands of others. Not a good situation to be in. There was no reason to not just let this play out along with the other power conferences. Kevin Warren is a fucking moron, and if this situation unfolds the way you described I pray that Ohio States leaves the Big 10 to save face.
 
Yeah, to put this into perspective. Unless universities completely changed how they selected dorm rooms simply for the pandemic, I have no idea how it wouldn’t eventually spread to sports teams.

-I was in the dorms at OU from 03-05.
-I lived on West Green where all the athletes stayed. Both years I lived in Boyd Hall, which was a 4 story co-ed dorm.
-First three floors were split down the middle, half guys / half girls. Top floor was all girls (pretty sweet setup :)

On my floor:
-My next door neighbors were football players and there were 5 other football players on my floor.
-There were 5 basketball players
-At least 4 baseball players
-3 members of the golf team
-4 Volleyball players
-A minimum of 5 men’s and women’s track & field athletes
-A few women’s soccer players

I’m sure I’m probably missing some here, but that was just on my floor. If people lived on different areas of campus where there were no athletes, they would never understand how this was setup.

So, we consider all those athletes in a dorm mixed amongst regular students. Now think about this:

On my floor, for whatever reason there was this big mural of Spiderman, Batman, and a bunch of other super heroes. Well, there was a group of two or three people who were so lazy, ignorant, and inconsiderate that when they got drunk, instead of walking the 50-100 ft to go pee in a toilet, they found it funny to pee on the Spiderman painting. Eventually the painting became so yellow that the staff had to paint over the whole thing in an attempt to stop these guys from doing it.

Also, the same year (likely the same people) there was a span of time where people were taking shits and leaving them on a paper plate in front of people‘s doors.

We also had to have a floor meeting because people were too lazy to take their trash downstairs and were instead leaving bags in the stairwell.

These people are at every university, and this was just one dorm. All it takes is a handful of inconsiderate people to wreck it for everyone else.

Very anecdotal here, but my little brother is a student at BGSU, and they, at minimum, will be making every single dorm room a single this coming fall according to him. No roommates anywhere on campus.
 
Even more reason why it was stupid to cancel this early. Now, they're leaving their fate in the hands of others. Not a good situation to be in. There was no reason to not just let this play out along with the other power conferences.

The Big 10 took a lot of shit for letting teams practice, then cancelling. They'd take orders of magnitude more if they "put those student athletes at risk", only to cancel down the road only after a bunch got sick -- especially if there was a severe problem or death. You might not have given them shit, but others would have.

Also, to the extent there is any possibility of an abbreviated spring season, cancelling now rather than having the season blow up in the middle is the better way to go.

These are just really difficult decisions, and I don't envy the people making them because someone was going to be pissed at them no matter what.
 

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