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On the topic of sleepers, I want to bring up Reggie Perry again. Rock solid NBA body, excellent rebounder, and developing shoot/pass/dribble skillset. Somehow still in the second round of many mocks? I don't understand it...I'd be looking at him in the teens.

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On the topic of sleepers, I want to bring up Reggie Perry again. Rock solid NBA body, excellent rebounder, and developing shoot/pass/dribble skillset. Somehow still in the second round of many mocks? I don't understand it...I'd be looking at him in the teens.

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Footwork is very good. Seems to play with great pace, he's deliberate and in control.

Looked like a PF at the beginning of his highlights and then you see the jumpshot. Don't think the post game does much for him, but it does show his attention to detail. He creates good separation all over the floor.

Seems like he can shoot some, but also looks like people have trouble with him as roll man and penetrating and finishing. Looks like above average finishing. Keeps the defender locked on his hip.

Ballhandling isn't NBA quality of guess. Looks like he needs encouragement to shoot.

Does he play any defense? Saw some good passes, are those the norm
 
Footwork is very good. Seems to play with great pace, he's deliberate and in control.

Looked like a PF at the beginning of his highlights and then you see the jumpshot. Don't think the post game does much for him, but it does show his attention to detail. He creates good separation all over the floor.

Seems like he can shoot some, but also looks like people have trouble with him as roll man and penetrating and finishing. Looks like above average finishing. Keeps the defender locked on his hip.

Ballhandling isn't NBA quality of guess. Looks like he needs encouragement to shoot.

Does he play any defense? Saw some good passes, are those the norm

I haven't scouted him extensively, but pretty much agree with your assessment. I think the biggest gripe people probably have is that he's not a particularly explosive lob catcher or shot blocker. But he does a lot of good things in the paint nonetheless thanks to his big shoulders and strong lower body, and he seems to move well laterally which is handy. His shooting ability gives him some positional versatility on offense, which is nice because you could pair him with a big who's a better shot blocker.

I count 5 bigs I'd be very interested in from the late teens to the early second round: Perry, Pokusevski, Tillman, Garza, and Reed (in no particular order). But I'm having a much harder time finding good sleeper wings in this draft. I think Green and Ramsey would be nice options in the late first for sure, maybe sooner, but they're hardly sleepers. Maybe Bane would be a nice value pick in the early second. Anyone else have ideas?
 
Reggie Perry has great tools. He has a body that can control the paint, but in games that's not his style. Ben Howland is a good recruiter, but I think Perry and Robert Woodard really would have developed further if Howland brought in a decent point guard.

Speaking of needing a point guard, Maccabi Tel Aviv lost due to some bad guard play today. Deni had another solid line: 15 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists.
 
Reggie Perry has great tools. He has a body that can control the paint, but in games that's not his style. Ben Howland is a good recruiter, but I think Perry and Robert Woodard really would have developed further if Howland brought in a decent point guard.

Speaking of needing a point guard, Maccabi Tel Aviv lost due to some bad guard play today. Deni had another solid line: 15 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists.

Notable that, in spite of spending significant time on the perimeter, his offensive rebounding and free throw numbers are still elite

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Reggie Perry has great tools. He has a body that can control the paint, but in games that's not his style. Ben Howland is a good recruiter, but I think Perry and Robert Woodard really would have developed further if Howland brought in a decent point guard.

Speaking of needing a point guard, Maccabi Tel Aviv lost due to some bad guard play today. Deni had another solid line: 15 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists.in
I get there is a reasonable expectation for this org to make bad decisions in the top 6 like last season and then hit it out of the park when the pressure is off, but how anyone can really think Avdija is a top 6 pick in this class based on good numbers in a terrible league regardless of what people think of it compared to college is beyond understanding.
Example: Ball is riding a similar hype train playing in an even easier cakewalk league and those numbers ovbiously are just as meaningless.
I like Avdija as a role player with little upside at all and his statline is not that special unless you ignore the opponents.
People who argue EL play is more intense than college have an argument in general but thats not where he is playing well
 
The problem here, ozone, is that you are criticizing the league Avdija plays in while skipping a similar assessment of what the college game has devolved into. Avdija is improving in real time due to an injury to Casspi.

A guy like James Wiseman definitely has better natural gifts. He was further along two years ago. I will give you all of that.

We can't say that James Wiseman, just for an example, is a better basketball player than he was last summer. We get to hope he hasn't lost his skillset. That's just how it is.
 
The problem here, ozone, is that you are criticizing the league Avdija plays in while skipping a similar assessment of what the college game has devolved into. Avdija is improving in real time due to an injury to Casspi.

A guy like James Wiseman definitely has better natural gifts. He was further along two years ago. I will give you all of that.

We can't say that James Wiseman, just for an example, is a better basketball player than he was last summer. We get to hope he hasn't lost his skillset. That's just how it is.
I hear you, I don't agree he has improved at all. He has shown us more against weaker competition that is all.
If he was tearing up the EL like Luka did, I may feel differently. He has not earned any role if its based on next man up due to injury either.
I am walking on this one.
 
I hear you, I don't agree he has improved at all. He has shown us more against weaker competition that is all.
If he was tearing up the EL like Luka did, I may feel differently. He has not earned any role if its based on next man up due to injury either.
I am walking on this one.
Luka was special. What he did against EL competition is so far above and beyond what teenagers (even highly regarded ones) ever do there. It won’t be soon repeated.

Saying you wanted Deni to tear up the EL like him is like saying you wish Anthony Edwards had dominated HS like LeBron.

Obviously, that’d be ideal, but not accomplishing that feat shouldn’t be held against him.
 
Pokusevski man, such an interesting profile. I hope he works out, I just want to see a player like him in the NBA.

He won't make it if he doesn't fill out. I am not sure he can bench the bar. Still, that form on his shot is buttery. Reminds me of Vladimir Radmanovic when Vlad entered the draft.
 
He won't make it if he doesn't fill out. I am not sure he can bench the bar. Still, that form on his shot is buttery. Reminds me of Vladimir Radmanovic when Vlad entered the draft.

Durant couldn't do 10 reps. I do think a 7 foot sg can hang. Dirk was never a strong defender. Whether it is Bol Bol, or this guy, I am never counting the extreme outliers out. Now, maybe you don'tr take them 1, but who knows.
 

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