2020 NFL Draft - Pick #88 - Jordan Elliott, DT, Missouri

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He is a great compliment to the Billings signing. They are both battlers, but Billings is better at pushing the offensive line backward and exhausting them by the fourth quarter while Elliott is the type of guy who plays around with the guard and center until he wants to shed and tackle. Fun new second line on paper.
 

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He is a great compliment to the Billings signing. They are both battlers, but Billings is better at pushing the offensive line backward and exhausting them by the fourth quarter while Elliott is the type of guy who plays around with the guard and center until he wants to shed and tackle. Fun new second line on paper.
Definitely. Depth in general across the line is looking to be head-and-shoulders above what it was last year. We should be able to run a lot of different looks with our current personnel.
 

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so the draft guru's harped on him not being productive. why the hell wasnt he productive if he grades out so highly?
Same reason why Olivier Vernon and Adrian Clayborn were graded so highly by PFF a year ago with low sack totals.

A player can earn a high PFF grade by defeating blocks quickly, disrupting plays and creating pressure without necessarily finishing a lot of those plays.

That's basically what happened with Elliott. He was extremely tough to block last year at the college level, but he only had 3 sacks.
 

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Same reason why Olivier Vernon and Adrian Clayborn were graded so highly by PFF a year ago with low sack totals.

A player can earn a high PFF grade by defeating blocks quickly, disrupting plays and creating pressure without necessarily finishing a lot of those plays.

That's basically what happened with Elliott. He was extremely tough to block last year at the college level, but he only had 3 sacks.
Only 3 from the DT spot?

Aaron Donald has spoiled expectations of a DT. Its great to get pressure up the middle, but lots of times its the ends that finish the plays once the QB starts to scramble.
 

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Only 3 from the DT spot?

Aaron Donald has spoiled expectations of a DT. Its great to get pressure up the middle, but lots of times its the ends that finish the plays once the QB starts to scramble.
In the pros, I completely agree. If Elliott can provide a consistently high pressure rate from the interior, he’s going to be a more valuable player than if he gets 6 or 7 sacks, but his pressure rate is consistently lower.

The fact is that a lot of people are still naturally drawn to counting numbers. I think there’s a general expectation (and it’s not necessarily fair) that top 100 prospects should produce at a high level because they’re not necessarily facing off against NFL caliber talent every single week.

It could have just been bad luck, but Elliott did finish with a lower sack total this past year than basically every other iDL prospect that has been drafted so far outside of Davis from Alabama.

I’m not suggesting this about you @Lee or really the vast majority of people on this board, but there are still tons and tons of people who have a difficult time accepting things that they can’t just look at and count.
 

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It could have just been bad luck, but Elliott did finish with a lower sack total this past year than basically every other iDL prospect that has been drafted so far outside of Davis from Alabama.
He was drafted in the bottom half of the third round, and we've only completed three rounds. So it kind of makes sense that his numbers are lower than most of the other guys who've been drafted at his position to this point.

He played for one of the weaker teams in the SEC, which meant 1) he was going up against some of the best OL in the country, and 2) he was likely getting doubled because he was the best DL on his team.

I'd never heard of the guy until we picked him, but I'm going to assume he was a reasonable pick unless/until his on-field performance proves otherwise.
 

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Missouri football has been terrible for a couple of years. Which means lack of leads and more running. SEC also has a bunch of run focused teams, despite what LSU did last year, and that leads a bit to a lack of opportunity.

Elliott is a good player. Should be a valuable rotation piece with Richardson.
 

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He was drafted in the bottom half of the third round, and we've only completed three rounds. So it kind of makes sense that his numbers are lower than most of the other guys who've been drafted at his position to this point.

He played for one of the weaker teams in the SEC, which meant 1) he was going up against some of the best OL in the country, and 2) he was likely getting doubled because he was the best DL on his team.

I'd never heard of the guy until we picked him, but I'm going to assume he was a reasonable pick unless/until his on-field performance proves otherwise.
His tape against Tennessee does the best job of showing who he is, in my opinion. He will bully interior defensive linemen on passing downs. He’s fast so he is also good against outside-zone runs. He struggles against gap play and double-teams.

 

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In the pros, I completely agree. If Elliott can provide a consistently high pressure rate from the interior, he’s going to be a more valuable player than if he gets 6 or 7 sacks, but his pressure rate is consistently lower.

The fact is that a lot of people are still naturally drawn to counting numbers. I think there’s a general expectation (and it’s not necessarily fair) that top 100 prospects should produce at a high level because they’re not necessarily facing off against NFL caliber talent every single week.

It could have just been bad luck, but Elliott did finish with a lower sack total this past year than basically every other iDL prospect that has been drafted so far outside of Davis from Alabama.

I’m not suggesting this about you @Lee or really the vast majority of people on this board, but there are still tons and tons of people who have a difficult time accepting things that they can’t just look at and count.
Exactly my point with my sarcasm.
 

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I watched the tape, and there were good moments but mostly not.. Tennessee ran away from him often, and double teamed him a few times, but he did seem to get disruptive often..
 
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