2020 Presidential Election Preview: The Race to the Bottom

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Who Will Now Win the Democratic Nomination

  • Uncle Joe Biden

    Votes: 14 77.8%
  • Uncle Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • Neither, Brokered Convention in a Warren Win

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Comrade Gabbard

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Uncle Tremendous Maine Coon

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • Jeff Bazos, Paying Cash Money

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    18
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cavsfan1985

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Is this the spot to talk Veep?

Klobuchar is getting vetted. Warren and Harris are still hot names that I'd personally prefer, but it seems like the momentum isn't there for Abrams.

I've seen some support here for a Klobe pick, do people think that's the best play electorally? She's a double down pick for the Midwest, which I can see the argument for, but on a national scale you're doing nothing to excite the base or encourage minority turnout. Probably won't be Palin bad but more likely a non-factor pick like Kaine.

We know Biden isn't in it for the long haul and the VP pick seems more weighty than usual elections. Picking Klobe as the symbol of the party's future seems like a decision that simply lacks vision. Maybe they're floating out Klobuchar so that progressives won't be as mad when he picks Harris. :chuckle:
For me if she is the pick, would def make me lean hard to that ticket. I think Klobuchar would be a perfect fit to run in 4 years. Has a lot of cross appeal to moderates on both sides, and is some I think could unify.
 

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I liked Klobuchar in the primaries, but this is going through the motions and she won’t be the pick. Tim Kaine 2.0.

Harris’s spot to lose.
They’re betting hard on moderate republicans who dislike trump to cross the aisle.
 

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Is this the spot to talk Veep?

Klobuchar is getting vetted. Warren and Harris are still hot names that I'd personally prefer, but it seems like the momentum isn't there for Abrams.

I've seen some support here for a Klobe pick, do people think that's the best play electorally? She's a double down pick for the Midwest, which I can see the argument for, but on a national scale you're doing nothing to excite the base or encourage minority turnout. Probably won't be Palin bad but more likely a non-factor pick like Kaine.

We know Biden isn't in it for the long haul and the VP pick seems more weighty than usual elections. Picking Klobe as the symbol of the party's future seems like a decision that simply lacks vision. Maybe they're floating out Klobuchar so that progressives won't be as mad when he picks Harris. :chuckle:
I think Harris is the frontrunner there. I am sure they are vetting Klob too because due diligence is necessary and I think they are making her a cabinet member.

Two other names that are in consideration and being vetted is Senator Catherine Cortez Masto and Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham.

Both are younger(ish) with the experience to set into the Oval Office right away. The Democrats are making a big push with Hispanics considering how popular Biden is with African-Americans.

Video on the Governor, I thought it was lighthearted, and one looks for that charisma in a VP pick. She seems funny, non-threatening (this is important) while also a no-nonsense type watching her COVID pressers. She has personality and she is very popular in a purple state with approval ratings usually around 60%.


Senator Masto is a different story. She is very accomplished, two-term Nevada Attorney General. Six years in the Senate. She would tear Pence apart in a debate. Very smart, but I think she is too serious and too much the lawyer. I don't think she has the "it" factor. And I think she is more valuable as a Senator.


I think Grisham should be the pick. Without a doubt. She has the best chance of winning battleground voters and injecting some energy into the Democratic campaign. I think she is more relatable than Harris, and more folksy. I think she brings TX into the equation.
 

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Klobucher is nothing like Caine. She ran a surprisingly successful campaign on a shoestring, and hung in there thorugh the entire run up to Iowa. I would wonder if she wants to be VEEP, because I think she has a good shot at president on her own. Its hard for modern Veeps to take the Oval, in part because they either have history which they have to explain in hindsight, or they have no history such that they look ineffective. If they pick her, Biden is planning a single term for certain. It also shows they are worried about the midwest, post virus.

I think there will be a move for Stacey Abrams. She would be lively in a debate with Pence, and he would have to handle her with kid gloves not to look like a complete racist. Basically she could attack him on immigration policy alone and skewer him. I think she has little enough experience, that there is no way she runs on her own any time soon. I think she delivers black voters, but not sure that helps the map..
 

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While I’m not sure she’d add much to the ticket, it’s always stuck with me that Klobuchar announced her candidacy in the middle of a snowstorm, unaffected... as any good Midwesterner would.
 

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Klobucher is nothing like Caine. She ran a surprisingly successful campaign on a shoestring, and hung in there thorugh the entire run up to Iowa. I would wonder if she wants to be VEEP, because I think she has a good shot at president on her own. Its hard for modern Veeps to take the Oval, in part because they either have history which they have to explain in hindsight, or they have no history such that they look ineffective. If they pick her, Biden is planning a single term for certain. It also shows they are worried about the midwest, post virus.

I think there will be a move for Stacey Abrams. She would be lively in a debate with Pence, and he would have to handle her with kid gloves not to look like a complete racist. Basically she could attack him on immigration policy alone and skewer him. I think she has little enough experience, that there is no way she runs on her own any time soon. I think she delivers black voters, but not sure that helps the map..
I disagree that Klobuchar is nothing like Kaine. They're both swing state politicians with centrist appeals that would be seen as picks that overlook progressive and minority voters. They have more in common than Warren does with Hillary, but I've seen that comparison on here.

The circumstances of Biden's candidacy elevates the VP pick a bit this round. Abrams is risky because she's less experienced, but I could see an entertaining Veep debate with her. I'd love to see Warren rip into Pence, but VP debate performances are not the biggest factor in the election. Harris feels like the compromise pick. You have experience, the ability to show energy in a debate (it'll be easier for her one on one against a Republican), and has shown openness to progressive ideas (not to mention the diversity she'd bring and media would obsess over). There's no pleasing everybody but I suppose you gotta account for who will piss off the least amount of people.
 

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I disagree that Klobuchar is nothing like Kaine. They're both swing state politicians with centrist appeals that would be seen as picks that overlook progressive and minority voters. They have more in common than Warren does with Hillary, but I've seen that comparison on here.

The circumstances of Biden's candidacy elevates the VP pick a bit this round. Abrams is risky because she's less experienced, but I could see an entertaining Veep debate with her. I'd love to see Warren rip into Pence, but VP debate performances are not the biggest factor in the election. Harris feels like the compromise pick. You have experience, the ability to show energy in a debate (it'll be easier for her one on one against a Republican), and has shown openness to progressive ideas (not to mention the diversity she'd bring and media would obsess over). There's no pleasing everybody but I suppose you gotta account for who will piss off the least amount of people.
The would love to watch Warren or Harris take apart Pence. It would be a bloodbath.
 

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This could be a problem...

 

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