2020 Presidential Election Preview: The Race to the Bottom

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Who Will Now Win the Democratic Nomination

  • Uncle Joe Biden

    Votes: 14 77.8%
  • Uncle Bernie Sanders

    Votes: 3 16.7%
  • Neither, Brokered Convention in a Warren Win

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Comrade Gabbard

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Uncle Tremendous Maine Coon

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • Jeff Bazos, Paying Cash Money

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    18
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Pretty crazy that Biden is widening his lead while basically just sitting back, doing nothing, and letting Trump shit his pants.
That he’s hitting 50% recently also lets air out of the “silent majority“ balloon… (not that it was anything more than the hot variety, anyway)
 

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If a party has to resort to keeping people from voting to win, then that party either needs to change or be punished.
This didn't just start recently - the GOP has been doing this for decades. They've engaged in voter disenfranchisement of every sort from superfluous ID requirements to closing polling places in urban areas to illegal poll tests right out of the Jim Crow playbook. Look at the lack of polling places in urban areas in recent elections (Georgia in 2018, North Carolina in 2016, Arizona in like every election). I was a poll watcher in Pennsylvania in 2012 and you wouldn't believe the absurd ways people were turned away from voting due to Pennsylvania's then-newly-enacted voter ID law. The fight over voter disenfranchisement has been particularly heated in the courts in recent years as well with the recent influx of state and federal conservative justices making some truly abominable decisions. On the other hand, there have been some important, albeit relatively local, victories in the courts against disenfranchisement in the last four years. So there is still hope.

More than any other social justice issue, voter disenfranchisement really bothers me. Because in so many ways it is the root cause of everything else. How can people express their displeasure with policies designed to help the few at the expense of the many when voting is made so unnecessarily difficult for the people most negatively affected by those policies? It's why I love what LeBron, Pat Mahomes, and others are doing with their More than a Vote initiative.
 
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Seems like it would be far smarter to have a lot more voting sites during a pandemic so you'd have less foot traffic in each individual location and can better keep them disinfected. Forcing everyone to go to the same site is fucking dumb.
The reason I heard stated was they were having trouble finding poll workers. Centralizing the voting allowed them to pool the resources. :conf (11):
 

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The first rule in any political campaign is to keep your mouth shut when things are negatively spinning against your opponent without your help.
came here to say this. Biden needs to be silent for as long as possible. Every time you go to almost any major news website (not fox), there is a list of articles attacking Trump.
 

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Not the end all be all, obviously.

But in my very rural town in central Ohio I have already seen more Biden signs than I did Clinton signs in 2016, and by a huge margin.

It was overwhelmingly Trump signs here and in some of the surrounding areas in 2016. Right now it might be 60/40 in favor of Trump.

Only way I see him winning is if he ransacks rural areas. Not a good sign for him if he is losing ground in rural central Ohio.
 

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Not the end all be all, obviously.

But in my very rural town in central Ohio I have already seen more Biden signs than I did Clinton signs in 2016, and by a huge margin.

It was overwhelmingly Trump signs here and in some of the surrounding areas in 2016. Right now it might be 60/40 in favor of Trump.

Only way I see him winning is if he ransacks rural areas. Not a good sign for him if he is losing ground in rural central Ohio.

The Quinnipiac poll that just dropped for Ohio seems to line up with what you are saying anecdotally Biden-Trump is basically a toss up here in Ohio with Biden holding a 1% lead which would be within the margin of error so could go either way. For a state that went to Trump by 8% last time around he'd be in big trouble if that is the case when the election rolls around.

 

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The Quinnipiac poll that just dropped for Ohio seems to line up with what you are saying anecdotally Biden-Trump is basically a toss up here in Ohio with Biden holding a 1% lead which would be within the margin of error so could go either way. For a state that went to Trump by 8% last time around he'd be in big trouble if that is the case when the election rolls around.

It will come down to turnout.

I predict record turnout.

The GOP will have to work overtime to suppress all of it.
 

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It will come down to turnout.

I predict record turnout.

The GOP will have to work overtime to suppress all of it.
To me it is so hard to predict turnout. While I don’t think Trump has a chance. If Biden does not hold his own in the debates, you could see a lower turnout, which could help down ticket races. Basically right now the polls could be any democrat vs Trump and Trump would be losing. The amount of hate for Trump right now is strong, and Biden is no where in site.

I mean how many of us on here that will vote Biden not becuase he is a great choice, but he is not Trump.
 

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"How many of us will, when given two choices, pick the better one?"

I'd hope everyone.
It not choice A or B, there are other choices.

- Vote but don't for President, only down ticket races
- Don't even bother to show up and vote
- Vote third party

With it looking like COVID is still going to be around in Nov. there might be a lot of people who don't want either that just wont show up. It is easy to show hate for Trump in a survey and say you will vote Biden, until you actually have to go to a poll and vote.
 

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To me it is so hard to predict turnout. While I don’t think Trump has a chance. If Biden does not hold his own in the debates, you could see a lower turnout, which could help down ticket races. Basically right now the polls could be any democrat vs Trump and Trump would be losing. The amount of hate for Trump right now is strong, and Biden is no where in site.

I mean how many of us on here that will vote Biden not becuase he is a great choice, but he is not Trump.
I have always felt Biden is the singular candidate that could "right the ship" the fastest. He knows what the office requires, and could put together a staff relatively quickly. To me that has always been his biggest selling point. Do i wish he was further left in a bunch of aspects, absolutely. But ultimately its his knowledge he could do the job that gives him the big push.
 

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