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2021-2022 Cavaliers General Discussion: Trade Deadline Edition

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Who Should the Cavs Trade For?

  • Murray

    Votes: 18 37.5%
  • Lavert

    Votes: 17 35.4%
  • White

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Seth Curry

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Schroeder

    Votes: 7 14.6%
  • Tatum

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • Hart

    Votes: 3 6.3%
  • Ingram

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • Brown

    Votes: 2 4.2%
  • Jim Chones

    Votes: 9 18.8%

  • Total voters
    48
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Math notwithstanding is not the case! It’s the amount of three ball shots taken and when they are taken (ie not in the flow of game). Taking three balls on a 3 on 1 fast break or firing up 3-4 three ball shots in a single possession when you’re down one point is stupid basketball.
Efficiency is trying to score as many points per possession as you can.

Perhaps you’re not saying what you mean, and are accidentally using the wrong language, but 3 pointers are typically much more efficient than mid-range shot for the simple reasons that have been laid out.

A player would need to shoot 60% on midrange shots to match the efficiency of a 40% 3PT shooter.
 
Math notwithstanding is not the case! It’s the amount of three ball shots taken and when they are taken (ie not in the flow of game). Taking three balls on a 3 on 1 fast break or firing up 3-4 three ball shots in a single possession when you’re down one point is stupid basketball.
That is probably what...5% of possessions where you are down one late or in a 3 on 1 fb. 95% of the time the three is a better shot. And sometimes, the three is the better shot even in the situations you described, for example if you have Duncan Robinson or Kyle Korver out there.
 
Garland 9-34 in last 34 attempts. Terrible in a Okoro way.
Garland shot 9-27 this game, and was 8-16 this game before taking that shot to the head and going to the locker room. Came back out and tried to finish the game and went 1-11. Give the dude a break. He took a forearm/elbow to the face and continued to play. Without Garland this game would have been a 20pt blowout.
 
They're really playing hard and I feel like they're still about to lose 10-12 games in a row and I worry, mentally, they'll just be done after that.

If they don't beat Orlando, they'll be underdogs in probably the next eight games.

Season could completely implode in the next two weeks.
 
They're really playing hard and I feel like they're still about to lose 10-12 games in a row and I worry, mentally, they'll just be done after that.

If they don't beat Orlando, they'll be underdogs in probably the next eight games.

Season could completely implode in the next two weeks.
They'll steal some games.

As long as Garland, Allen and Markky are healthy I think they can hang in there.
 
That is probably what...5% of possessions where you are down one late or in a 3 on 1 fb. 95% of the time the three is a better shot. And sometimes, the three is the better shot even in the situations you described, for example if you have Duncan Robinson or Kyle Korver out there.
I’m sorry….we’ll just have to agree to disagree. It’s clear you are just a fan of the three point shot. There’s nothing efficient about firing up a three pointer on a 3 on 1 break. You can’t tell me a lay up isn’t more efficient than a three pointer. And according to your statement of shooting 60% on mid range shots as opposed to a 40% shooter taking three pointers…..if that’s the case only Joe Harris and the Curry brothers are currently shooting over 42% from three ball land. So nobody else should be firing them up at a rapid clip. And I wasn’t talking about firing three balls late in a game down one! That’s an every day occurrence in the NBA at any point in time during a game. Again everybody has their preference of style of game. I have no problem with the three ball I just think it’s over and misused. I consistently see teams going 9-27 or even 8-32 from three land but continue to jack them up. That’s not efficient.
 
Our guys have done a commendable job playing close, and winning some, against good teams while being very undermanned due to injury & illness. That we are sitting at .500 given who has been out is far better than most would have thought possible. But it does feel like we need one to pay off soon.
 

Thought this was a cool watch. There's interviews with Evan Mobley and Brad Daugherty, and Daugherty also breaks down the Frobley duo and their play.
 
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Lauri comes back and we score over 110, Lauri the key to 100ppg Cavs?
 
Said in the screening post, this is a real problem for this team on both sides of the ball. I really do hope that there's someone on the coaching staff that can address this (and other issues) of the game. The off-the-ball movement has kind of tanked. Might also be why rebounds are an issue.
 
There’s some truth in both of those statements.

Lauri's obviously no rim protector (although, weirdly, he's averaging the exact same number of blocks per game as Allen, who's both way longer and more athletic than him) and he's not really effective guarding traditional center types. None of this is news.

This is why we need Mobley back. Markkanen can function surprisingly well as a SF on defense in the Triple Towers framework, where he can eat up space near the perimeter, block passing lanes and get his hands on 50/50 balls. He's a huge obstacle out there when teams try to get the ball inside.

However, when he's defending the 4/5 spots as a "big", he's often overmatched when he's targeted for ISO's and pick and rolls. Lauri is more of a system defender and he can work well in that role. But he needs length out there with him.
 
Garland 9-34 in last 34 attempts. Terrible in a Okoro way.

Pointing that out when he went 1-11 after an elbow to the head proves there is an agenda. Or maybe you didnt watch the game and were cherry picking stats?
 
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