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2021 Buckeyes Football
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TheLand1287
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I’m sure this won’t be a popular opinion but I really hate this opt out culture in CFB. I get it for certain guys that are top 15-20, even sure fire 1st round picks, but most others I feel owe it to the university and their brothers to suit up one more time.
Garrett Wilson I feel is that guy that should sit out this game. He’s accomplished a lot and is top 15. Nothing to prove with this one and let the young WRs get some PT before next season. Olave I would say the same as well but man… he’s a three year starter and 64 yards away from 1,000. Hate to see him not get that milestone and his career end on a loss to Michigan. Would’ve liked to have seen him play at least a quarter or two, get the 1,000, and then pass the baton to Harrison/Egbuka.
NPF and Haskell… these guys are day 2 and day 3 picks. They should be playing. Their lasting image is being bitched by Michigan in the trenches for 60 minutes. You’d think you would want one last battle with the guys next to you and a W to end your career on. Whatever.
I’m 33 so it’s not like I’m some boomer yelling to get off my lawn. I really do remember guys like Hawk, Carpenter, Santonio, Zeke, etc… really just about everyone other than Roby and Ward suiting up for their final game as Buckeyes. It’s just sad this is how it is now.
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It is sad, especially given that it's the Rose Bowl. Roby skipping the Orange Bowl and Ward skipping the Cotton Bowl is one thing, but these guys skipping the Rose Bowl is like...damn. A sobering reality of what this sport is now. Very soon, the non-CFP bowl games are going to be played exclusively by players not going to the draft. It'll just be a warmup game for the younger players before the next season. Honestly, the sooner we get to that point, the better, IMO. It can just be the new standard instead of where we are now which is stuck between tradition and NIL.
Games like the 2004 and 2006 Fiesta Bowl, 2010 Rose Bowl, 2011 Sugar Bowl were awesome, but are a thing of the past at this point.
Even in the Meyer era, the non-CFP NY6 wins didn't feel like those games I just mentioned. Truthfully, I haven't thought one second about the 2016 Fiesta Bowl, 2017 Cotton Bowl, or 2019 Rose Bowl victories beyond the day those games were played. The CFP has just made all other bowl games seem obsolete.
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I think it is just the opposite. Too much talent, too much depth and stud kids who have to ride the bench are moving on. Start me or I leave.
If anything, it forces the coach to play kids as true freshmen, even before they are ready. The kid was a all-state stud, had a big college choice moment, then has to sit? Nah, F that. I'm going transfer portal to someplace that tells me I will start.
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Not going to lie, I definitely have some concerns. It may be unrecognizable in 5 years. Just impossible to predict how things are going to develop with NIL and no functioning NCAA to govern it or anything else.
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It's a tough call for these kids. I'm sure Olave is aware of his stats and these guys don't want to finish on a down note, but when you're definitely getting drafted I'm not sure one game that could risk your health will be worth it. Ultimately for Chris I can't be too upset because he gave us an extra year and at least he snagged that TD record.
And yeah, even the Grandaddy has lost its luster. Bowl games continually get devalued by the evolving playoff system. Not sure there's anything to be done about it and the process has been ongoing.
We have great depth at WR (or supposedly we do, these guys didn't get a ton of burn) so I'm excited to see what the next guys up can do. Same on the defensive line, the young guys should be hungry and everybody should be pissed at the soft label.
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Ive always thought they should play bowl season then pick the two teams for the championship after the bowls are played. Kind of a blend of the CFP and the BCS.
Obviously an expanded playoff trumps that, but I like it better than the current 4 team slate.
Obviously an expanded playoff trumps that, but I like it better than the current 4 team slate.
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Wilson is one of the caliber of player that I understand sitting out in the bowl game. Sucks, but to be expected.
Olave, that dude didn't even have to come back this season. Not going to get on him at all.
Garrett and NPF? Those guys should be playing. They're not world beaters and they're not getting drafted day one. I'd be pissed at those dudes if I was hanging around in that locker room.
Olave, that dude didn't even have to come back this season. Not going to get on him at all.
Garrett and NPF? Those guys should be playing. They're not world beaters and they're not getting drafted day one. I'd be pissed at those dudes if I was hanging around in that locker room.
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I've never thought about this kind of a format, but I like it more than the CFP.
The only thing kind of rough about it is determining who plays each other in the bowl games. There have been some lopsided ass matchups this year (COVID partially to blame).
If the CFP ended their pre-bowl rankings as Bama, Michigan, Georgia, and Cincy, and then say Bama plays Michigan and Georgia plays Cincy, is it just the winner of those two games playing each other for the CFP anyways, or would teams like Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Ole Miss still have a chance even though their matchup falls completely out of the top-4?
The way I usually do my rankings, I probably wouldn't drop or move teams around too much if they're getting evenly matched within their seedings.
If #2 Michigan beats #1 Alabama 28-17 in the Cotton Bowl and #3 Georgia beats #4 Cincinnati 35-10 in the Fiesta Bowl, then I'm probably matching up Michigan and Georgia in the CFP anyways, rest of the bowl games be damned. Say #6 Ohio State beats #11 Utah 54-17. Is that good enough to bump up ahead of Michigan who just beat #1 and Georgia who just beat #4? Probably not.
The only way I could see things getting shaken up is if say Georgia and Cincinnati play an absolute shitter of a game where Cincy wins like 10-7 and then something like #6 Ohio State beating Utah by 5 touchdowns happens, then maybe you could move a non top-4 team up.
I like the concept, but in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it would change much.
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It is a result of the powers that be having one foot in the pool and one foot out.
An expanded playoff effectively solves all of these issues IMO.
OSU isn't getting players sitting out in a 5 vs. 6 CFP matchup right?
College football is destroying their post-season product by not embracing that players and fans both want a larger competitive post-season pool.
It also then provides opportunities down the rung as well......i.e. someone else further down the pecking order would be going to the Rose Bowl, who in the short term, are probably teams less likely to opt out.
You will always have opt outs but you are going to have far less if there are more teams playing for something.
What is the problem with having 1 to 2 less college games a season and expanding the playoffs to 16 teams?