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Grant didn’t want Bennett. It’s been well documented.
Griffin and Mike Brown made a big push to draft Bennet. The final vote to take him was 9-1 with Grant against it. He wanted to trade the pick or take Ben McLemore.
Jesus.. why let that leak just to find out that you planned on taking a different horrible player than the bust you took?? At Least Paul DePodesta has the decency to make sure everyone knows the guy HE would have chosen ended up being a halfway decent Pro.
 

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True. At least they learned and Koby drafted DG a year, who was the BPA, a year after taking Sexton.

But Sexton is the Waiters - the guy whose game translates perfectly to an AAU tournament. Sexton has a better head on his shoulders and has been more adaptable, but they approach offense the exact same way.
 

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Yeah but remember 13 other owners passed on Giannis as well!
You’re right. Giannis has grown physically, adding at least 2” and probably 50 lbs, but the raw tools were there. It’s weird that he fell as far as he did. I heard Danny Ferry & Atlanta were poised to take Giannis and were trying to trade up before Milwaukee snatched him up unexpectedly.
 

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You’re right. Giannis has grown physically, adding at least 2” and probably 50 lbs, but the raw tools were there. It’s weird that he fell as far as he did. I heard Danny Ferry & Atlanta were poised to take Giannis and were trying to trade up before Milwaukee snatched him up unexpectedly.
He was our target at #19 too. We just weren't going to be aggressive in trying to get him.
 

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But Sexton is the Waiters - the guy whose game translates perfectly to an AAU tournament. Sexton has a better head on his shoulders and has been more adaptable, but they approach offense the exact same way.

Ehh...I still think the Kyrie/Sexton correlation is far more appropriate, but to each his own. History repeating itself would've been the Cavs taking Culver over Garland because they already had Sexton.
 

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What does Giannis become though if he is on the Cavs? He gets one year playing with Kyrie and Dion with Mike Brown as coach before Lebron comes back.

I bet Giannis get pushed to being a better version of TT and never gets to handle the ball.

Based on how he played in his rookie year, if the Cavs drafted him I think Giannis gets traded in the Kevin Love trade. The Cavs wanted to keep Waiters because they envisioned a Kyrie, Waiters, LeBron, Love, TT lineup long-term.

If you compare their rookie years just on raw stats, Bennett and Giannis weren't all that different. Giannis improved in year two, but year three was when he really started looking like a different player. Given the desire to win right away and the need to put shooting around LeBron, I don't think Giannis gets a shot to stick around and play with Kyrie and LeBron.

Who knows if Giannis becomes the player he has in Minnesota, but if he did I can't imagine how shitty everyone would feel including LeBron 2-3 years after that trade had been made. Would've been one of the biggest mistakes in NBA history.
 
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3. Don't just draft for who the player is right now... find traits that give you the best player in the class four years down the road.

Huge.

To me, the corrolary for that is to seek out guys with intangibles suggesting drive/motor/improvement. Character guys with some brains. I'd prefer a guy whose biggest need is to improve his skills over a guy whose biggest need is to get his head screwed on straight.
 

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He was our target at #19 too. We just weren't going to be aggressive in trying to get him.
Where did you hear that? I thought Karasev was their target there as they seemed thrilled, at the time, to get him.
 
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