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Werner. He's just a better all around player. Browning has the slight edge in athleticism, but Werner's instincts are better and he's much better in coverage.

Hard agree here. Browning may have a higher ceiling or put up the metrics, but the instincts of Werner have been vastly underrated IMO.

He can start for quite a few teams in this league.
 

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I'm by no means an expert on draft value and the workings of the NFL salary cap, so I'm interested in everyone's opinion.

The Browns window for contention is open now. My thought being, lets load up on talent to help us win in the next couple years. What are the chances, value, and implications of trying to buy a late first or second rounder using future picks?

For example, there are a few teams (notably NO, PHI, ATL, GB, HOU, LAR, etc. **) that are in cap hell and may (?) be interested in punting picks into the future. Would you be willing to trade a future 1st or 2nd for a 1st or 2nd now if there is a guy we love that falls to the right spot?

What is the general cost? Would a late first this year cost just a 1st next year? If so, I'd probably make that move hoping we're trading a late first for a late first.

I'm not interested in giving up future draft picks for pretty much any reason because there's no such thing as being "one player away" in the NFL.

If anything, I'd be even more apt to trading down than I was before. This doesn't apply in every single draft obviously, but the difference between 25-45 in a lot of drafts is just not that significant. Evaluate the board when you're on the clock and if there's a player you absolutely can't live without then pick him, but if there isn't?

Moving back 10-20 spots to pick up multiple top 75 picks either this year or in future years makes sense to me.

Same for rounds 2 and 3. Like the Browns/Saints trade last year. 74 in 2020 for 88 in 2020 and 90 in 2021? I'll do a variation of that every year.
 

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Sheesh, Kwity Paye with a pretty insane 3-cone.

Amazing stop/start.

 

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Sheesh, Kwity Paye with a pretty insane 3-cone.

Amazing stop/start.


He won't come within 15 picks of the Browns selection. Top edge in the draft for me.
 
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20. Bears - Jalen Mayfield
21. Colts - Kwity Paye
22. Titans - Jaycee Horn
23. Jets - Travis Etienne
24. Steelers - Teven Jenkins
25. Jags - Trevon Moehrig
26. Browns - Zaven Collins

School: Tulsa | Year: Junior (RS)

Collins is very similar to Leighton Vander Esch when he was coming out of Boise State. Collins has the same size, length and athleticism. Cleveland needs to upgrade at the linebacker position.

27. Ravens - Azeez Ojulari
28. Saints - Nick Bolton
 

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Would imagine the Browns could have interest in Odeyingbo in the later rounds.

Good talent. Draft and stash asset.

 

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26) Cleveland Browns: Joseph Ossai, LB Texas​

Fans and the media following the Cleveland Browns have been crying out for the team to add a linebacker, and they could address the position early in the 2021 NFL Draft. They could also add a pass rusher to create a dominant duo with Myles Garrett. The offensive line has played surprisingly well this season and it would appear the main offensive need in the draft will be a wide receiver, with much speculation over the future of Odell Beckham Jr.

Joseph Ossai came to national attention following a sophomore season at outside linebacker for Texas that yielded 13.5 tackles for loss and six sacks. After transitioning to a full-time defensive end for 2020, Ossai is set to blow that production out of the water if he continues his early-season pace. His performances have skyrocketed him up big boards with the realistic possibility of him being the second edge rusher drafted in April. Ossai possesses the ideal combination of speed and size to succeed at the next level, and his positional versatility will only add value to his NFL Draft stock.

59) Cleveland Browns: Josh Jobe, CB Alabama​

89) Cleveland Browns: Cameron McGrone, LB Michigan​

91) Cleveland Browns: Seth Williams, WR Auburn​

125) Cleveland Browns: Garrett Wallow, S Texas Christian​

 

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26) Cleveland Browns: Joseph Ossai, LB Texas​

Fans and the media following the Cleveland Browns have been crying out for the team to add a linebacker, and they could address the position early in the 2021 NFL Draft. They could also add a pass rusher to create a dominant duo with Myles Garrett. The offensive line has played surprisingly well this season and it would appear the main offensive need in the draft will be a wide receiver, with much speculation over the future of Odell Beckham Jr.

Joseph Ossai came to national attention following a sophomore season at outside linebacker for Texas that yielded 13.5 tackles for loss and six sacks. After transitioning to a full-time defensive end for 2020, Ossai is set to blow that production out of the water if he continues his early-season pace. His performances have skyrocketed him up big boards with the realistic possibility of him being the second edge rusher drafted in April. Ossai possesses the ideal combination of speed and size to succeed at the next level, and his positional versatility will only add value to his NFL Draft stock.

59) Cleveland Browns: Josh Jobe, CB Alabama​

89) Cleveland Browns: Cameron McGrone, LB Michigan​

91) Cleveland Browns: Seth Williams, WR Auburn​

125) Cleveland Browns: Garrett Wallow, S Texas Christian​


Joseph Ossai would be such a disappointing pick at 26.
 

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Joseph Ossai would be such a disappointing pick at 26.
I agree.

I know eDGE rushers are viewed as critical. But I think the back seven of our defense was our weakness, and if I was going to go front four anyway, it would only be for a stud interior pass rusher.
 

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I agree.

I know eDGE rushers are viewed as critical. But I think the back seven of our defense was our weakness, and if I was going to go front four anyway, it would only be for a stud interior pass rusher.
As long as the player was worthy of the slot, there is no defensive player that would disappoint me.

I would agree that secondary is a bigger need. But reaching for need when you have multiple holes to fill doesn't seem sound to me. If the best player on their board is an eDGe when the pick, then they should take him.
 

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As long as the player was worthy of the slot, there is no defensive player that would disappoint me.

I would agree that secondary is a bigger need. But reaching for need when you have multiple holes to fill doesn't seem sound to me. If the best player on their board is an eDGe when the pick, then they should take him.

I think it highly unlikely that with so many other needs on defense, that an eDGE rusher would so clearly be BPA that far down in the first round. By the time you get there, the clear separations at BPA generally aren't as stark.

But if that did turn out to be the case, then that's exactly the moment when you trade down with a team that needs an eDGE more than we do. That way, you get the value of the BPA, but get to slot that value into a position of more need, of which we have many on the defense.
 

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I think it highly unlikely that with so many other needs on defense, that an eDGE rusher would so clearly be BPA that far down in the first round. By the time you get there, the clear separations at BPA generally aren't as stark.

But if that did turn out to be the case, then that's exactly the moment when you trade down with a team that needs an eDGE more than we do. That way, you get the value of the BPA, but get to slot that value into a position of more need, of which we have many on the defense.
I agree it would depend on how highly we have him rated.

If he's the highest, but is not far ahead of a bunch of different guys, and we had a deal to trade down, then yes I'd do that.

If we're sitting at 26 and we think the guy is a mid-first round talent, then we should take him unless we're blow away by a trade down.
 
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