2021 Draft Prospects Thread

[DJTJ]

I am surprised you havent seen any video because everybody is talking all this stuff about him.

I hated this joke the first time.

This one is much better.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

When he gets his first million dollar contract, will he be...

 

[DJTJ]

@Lee

You’re a Purdue homer. Is Derrick Barnes actually good or do my eyes deceive me?

I think, as a day three guy... he miiight be my favorite LB value. I’ve seen tape with hand in dirt, blitzing off the edge, dropping into coverage, playing in the middle. He needs work, especially in coverage... but if you put his and Nick Bolton’s tape on and say second or fifth? I might chose fifth.

 

[AZ_]

@Lee

You’re a Purdue homer. Is Derrick Barnes actually good or do my eyes deceive me?

I think, as a day three guy... he miiight be my favorite LB value. I’ve seen tape with hand in dirt, blitzing off the edge, dropping into coverage, playing in the middle. He needs work, especially in coverage... but if you put his and Nick Bolton’s tape on and say second or fifth? I might chose fifth.

I think I’d take him and develop him as a hand down guy coming off the edge.

But he’s pretty intriguing just about anywhere at LB.

 

[DJTJ]

I think I’d take him and develop him as a hand down guy coming off the edge.

But he’s pretty intriguing just about anywhere at LB.

His tape doesn’t match his size. He looks so compact from a build perspective. It’s wild how he’s successful as a rusher.

edit- not Suggs. Meant Dummerville.

 

[Lee]

@Lee

You’re a Purdue homer. Is Derrick Barnes actually good or do my eyes deceive me?

I think, as a day three guy... he miiight be my favorite LB value. I’ve seen tape with hand in dirt, blitzing off the edge, dropping into coverage, playing in the middle. He needs work, especially in coverage... but if you put his and Nick Bolton’s tape on and say second or fifth? I might chose fifth.

He is really good, but injury issues plagued his career in the 2nd half. He has a great nose for the ball and think he could of been a 2nd/3rd round pick if he never got injured.

I wouldnt draft him that high now, but 5th round he would be a steal, wouldnt even be mad at late 4th, but i am a Purdue homer.

Word is the Steelers are looking to take him.

 

[AZ_]

 

[Jack Brickman]

Did he miss many games in college? If not, I don't see the issue.

 

[DJTJ]

Did he miss many games in college? If not, I don't see the issue.

I think he missed part of the national championship season, but no major issues? He did have a major injury in HS and missed his entire senior season, but played 12 games as a fresh so who cares?

Looks like someone wants to push him down.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I think he missed part of the national championship season, but no major issues? He did have a major injury in HS and missed his entire senior season, but played 12 games as a fresh so who cares?

Looks like someone wants to push him down.

Shady as fuck how organizations leak medical info about these kids. I saw they did the same with Fields and his epilepsy earlier today.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Shady as fuck how organizations leak medical info about these kids. I saw they did the same with Fields and his epilepsy earlier today.

I don't get this. Don't all the teams already have the medical reports? If so, the leaks are irrelevant to the draft intentions of the teams themselves. The leaks may affect the predictions of the pundits/commentators/draft "experts" who weren't aware of those medicals. But sliding down Mel Kiper's board isn't going to impact where a player is actually drafted.

 

[DJTJ]

I don't get this. Don't all the teams already have the medical reports? If so, the leaks are irrelevant to the draft intentions of the teams themselves. The leaks may affect the predictions of the pundits/commentators/draft "experts" who weren't aware of those medicals. But sliding down Mel Kiper's board isn't going to impact where a player is actually drafted.

To a degree, sure. But their goal is to get teams in the border to question it.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

To a degree, sure. But their goal is to get teams in the border to question it.

I dunno - I don't think a team on the border is going to decide differently just because something they already knew about a prospect anyway goes public. I think it's just someone trying to feel important by leaking something to the media for clickbait. Or maybe doing some journalist a favor hoping to get something in return.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I don't get this. Don't all the teams already have the medical reports? If so, the leaks are irrelevant to the draft intentions of the teams themselves. The leaks may affect the predictions of the pundits/commentators/draft "experts" who weren't aware of those medicals. But sliding down Mel Kiper's board isn't going to impact where a player is actually drafted.

I was referring to teams leaking medical information on players who aren't under their employment. I find that practice shady.

It's one thing to confirm a player that you're paying ten million dollars a year tore his ACL. It's another entirely to leak to reporters that a guy who hasn't even been drafted yet has epilepsy. I don't care what the reasoning is, or if it makes sense.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I was referring to teams leaking medical information on players who aren't under their employment. I find that practice shady.

It's one thing to confirm a player that you're paying ten million dollars a year tore his ACL. It's another entirely to leak to reporters that a guy who hasn't even been drafted yet has epilepsy. I don't care what the reasoning is, or if it makes sense.

I agree it sucks. I just don't think it is leaked for the purpose of driving down a players draft stock, so that the leaking team can then snatch them.

I know that's a common theory, but it has never made sense to me.