The 52 year drought is over!
- Aug 23, 2006
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That’s a little harsh, bro. The past 16 months has been a challenge for everyone. Guys have been hurt in college and, rather than rushing back, some decide to prep for the draft, instead. It has happened in football & basketball. Darius Bazley took a year off and was still a first round pick by OKC. Duke had a really down year, by Duke standards. Is that Jalen Johnson’s fault?Guys who do it in football generally have years of college games behind them to establish their credentials and value, and the vast majority finish out the season anyway. In college basketball, it's almost unheard of, which is why you had to point to college football in the first place. Who was the last college freshman who did that in basketball?
Johnson also didn't just quit at some logical stopping point - he quit in the mide of the season, and after two really shitty games and reduced playing time. That was long after he'd already recovered from his preseason injury.
In top of that, he'd quit his IMG team the previous year without any explanation at all, and ended up only playing 9 games for a high school team. Which means that solely by choice, he's played in only 22 games total in the last 2 years. By his choice, and without any explanation that's worth a crap.
Sure, Coach K said the right things...because that's the kind of thing he'll always say in those situations because he's not going to say anything publicly to hurt a kid's chances.
22 games in 2 years, by choice, is a giant red flag to me. Whether he gets anxiety, or jdoesn't react well to competition or adversity, or just gets homesick, no thanks.
Until he proves otherwise at a level that matters, he's a mentally soft quitter who needs to show he can wear big boy pants consistently.
That’s a little harsh, bro. The past 16 months has been a challenge for everyone. Guys have been hurt in college and, rather than rushing back, some decide to prep for the draft, instead. It has happened in football & basketball. Darius Bazley took a year off and was still a first round pick by OKC. Duke had a really down year, by Duke standards. Is that Jalen Johnson’s fault?
Everyone went through Covid, and it is perfectly fair to judge everyone equally absent evidence that Covid impacted him differently from others. But there isn't the barest hint of that.
How many other guys in this draft quit the team after having their minutes reduced? Bazemore skipped college - he didn't quit on his team. How many other guys on Duke quit that team? And there's still him quitting his IMG team long before Covid.
I'm not comfortable saying everyone had the same experience. Like we all had the same experience as KAT who lost his mom and 5 of his Aunts and Unlces? No, it has been random and crazy.
I'll just say that you know an excuse is weak when someone else has to speculate that it is even your excuse in the first place. Nobody - not his agent, not Coach K, not Johnson himself, has even hinted that this has anything to do with Covid. That just you guys making up a possible excuse for him out of thin air
In contrast, you just mentioned KAT, and offered specifics about how Covid affected him more than others. That's exactly my point - we have nothing like that about Johnson. And given that concerns about his intangibles are hardly a secret during this draft process, don't you think someone on his team would have offered a good excuse if he actually had one, or that something at least would have leaked? But there is literally nothing. And again, there is him quitting his IMG team and playing only 9 games of basketball his senior year.
Honestly, does that really sound like a guy ready for the grind and emotional wear and tear of an 82 game NBA season?
Coach K and his staff made recruiting promises to land Jalen Johnson that they didn't have the patience to honor.
Such as what? If it was a question of starting or playing time, he did start and got a lot of playing time initially. And then...he kind of started to suck. So if he was upset because he wasn't starting , or because of minutes, that's on him as far as I'm concerned. Play better.
Coach K is more interested in getting these 5 star recruits and shoehorning them in to his system to win titles whereas someone like John Calipari gets these guys and tries to maximize their draft value. I think Jalen Johnson quit because he wasn't a fit on an underperforming Duke team that shut it down midway through the season. When Duke decided to focus on giving more playing time to guys that would be returning next year, and eased him out of the picture, he did what he thought was best for him. He doesn't owe Duke anything much in the same way Duke doesn't owe him playing time. Ironically, the perception that he's a quitter is now hurting his draft stock somewhat, although I can't see him falling out of the lottery.Such as what? If it was a question of starting or playing time, he did start and got a lot of playing time initially. And then...he kind of started to suck. So if he was upset because he wasn't starting , or because of minutes, that's on him as far as I'm concerned. Play better, and quit expecting things to be handed to you.
There are going to be rough patches where thongs will not go as you has hoped/envisioned