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I’m a huge fan of Keisei Tominaga. He’s from Japan and recently transferred to Nebraska under Fred Hoilberg and I’ve watched him since high school where he put up 50-60 points in many games. Keisei is one of the best shooters I’ve seen and he can shoot from Dame/Curry range and he has a really good step back 3 that Harden does so well. No one really knows him yet but I’m sure his stock will rise this year.

Do the Cavaliers need another <6'3" guard?
 

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I will never understand Koby Altman's utter contempt shown towards long wings who have an outside shot.
 

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Rubio is 6'4, the other 3 are all 6'1

Rubio's official height (via nba.com) is 6'3"...regardless, I said "<6'3""...that little "<" means "less than the number that follows". That means 6'1" is included, since it's less than 6'3". We have plenty of those, whether you count Rubio or not.

Do the Cavaliers need another <6'3" guard?
 

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I will never understand Koby Altman's utter contempt shown towards long wings who have an outside shot.

He drafted 3 wings. 1 got broken and the other is performing very well on another team. We got a 2nd rounder that will never vest.

I'm in favor of starting Windler if Okoro stays so tentative.
 

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He drafted 3 wings. 1 got broken and the other is performing very well on another team. We got a 2nd rounder that will never vest.

I'm in favor of starting Windler if Okoro stays so tentative.
I am putting $ on Okoro being moved real soon and then breaking out for Houston smh
 

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Rubio's official height (via nba.com) is 6'3"...regardless, I said "<6'3""...that little "<" means "less than the number that follows". That means 6'1" is included, since it's less than 6'3". We have plenty of those, whether you count Rubio or not.

I didnt see the <, sorry
 

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Temperature check on this draft so far.

PDIFF in relation to VORP. Quickley was the big break through thus far.

Top 15, the other 14 guys are above median players in the metric.

I'll have to do a 10+ year view here.....maybe I'll collect that and post in the 2022 thread.

This metric, again, is not really meant to be a predictive measure, in order......i.e. this PDIFF is higher than that one, so the higher player will definitely be better. It is a measure relative to a median 1st round pick (0.80) and how much more or less impactful they are relative to their position. This has been an easy way to trim the pool down and narrow on where the best players are most likely to come from.

Some fuzziness still, with how playing time has fallen but I'll continue to harp on wings like Bey and how often they are under drafted. It is still one of the strangest things to me.......that the NBA has just not caught up in evaluating these SF's.

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Temperature check on this draft so far.

PDIFF in relation to VORP. Quickley was the big break through thus far.

Top 15, the other 14 guys are above median players in the metric.

I'll have to do a 10+ year view here.....maybe I'll collect that and post in the 2022 thread.

This metric, again, is not really meant to be a predictive measure, in order......i.e. this PDIFF is higher than that one, so the higher player will definitely be better. It is a measure relative to a median 1st round pick (0.80) and how much more or less impactful they are relative to their position. This has been an easy way to trim the pool down and narrow on where the best players are most likely to come from.

Some fuzziness still, with how playing time has fallen but I'll continue to harp on wings like Bey and how often they are under drafted. It is still one of the strangest things to me.......that the NBA has just not caught up in evaluating these SF's.

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Do you mind explaining what PDIFF is?
 

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Do you mind explaining what PDIFF is?

Cliff notes version, it is the impact excess or deficit, relative to their positional peers in the possession data base. So how unique is their production, compared to others at the position.

In the possession era, excess production (above median) is a strong indicator that a player has a much better chance to be one of the best 10-15 players in a draft.
 

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Cliff notes version, it is the impact excess or deficit, relative to their positional peers in the possession data base. So how unique is their production, compared to others at the position.

In the possession era, excess production (above median) is a strong indicator that a player has a much better chance to be one of the best 10-15 players in a draft.
So what is better, a higher or lower PDIFF number? You mentioned PDIFF in relation to VORP so the VORP figures, along with the player's positiom must be factors that determine the PDIFF numbers, right?
 

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