2021 Season | Series #37 | Indians @ Twins | Aug. 16-18, 2021

[DCTribefan]

B
Based upon all around game.

He is 6th in MLB in fWAR among CFs.

Defense and base running count, too.

We know you do love fWAR.

 

[Real Deal]

At least we scored some runs and made it fun.

Clement had a golden chance at putting the ball in play. Looked at strike 2 way outside, looked at 3 strike inside paint.

 

[DCTribefan]

Tribe cannot waste 7-run games—they come so infrequently.

 

[xmasbuck]

Miller making the case for Clement.

only in cleveland can you go oh for 5 with 3 k's and move ahead of the other guy

 

[sportscoach]

At least we scored some runs and made it fun.

Clement had a golden chance at putting the ball in play. Looked at strike 2 way outside, looked at 3 strike inside paint.

He made up for it stealing a hit away, so it's give and take as always...

 

[Real Deal]

He made up for it stealing a hit away, so it's give and take as always...

Offense is offensive, but I get it. Clement saves runs for both teams.

 

[Kevalier]

Owen Miller has been an absolute bust so far. The chasm between his production in Columbus and up here this season is staggering.

 

[sportscoach]

Owen Miller has been an absolute bust so far. The chasm between his production in Columbus and up here this season is staggering.

Let's see how he comes into spring training and what he does in 22... I feel most of his issues are mental and he's been better of late...

 

[33Y0]

Let's see how he comes into spring training and what he does in 22... I feel most of his issues are mental and he's been better of late...

He’s hitting .152 in his last 10 games..

 

[Kevalier]

Let's see how he comes into spring training and what he does in 22... I feel most of his issues are mental and he's been better of late...

In the month of August, over 54 plate appearances, he has a wRC+ of 37 with a wOBA of .226. An OPS of .506 if you prefer that stat. As brutal as those numbers are, to your point, it's better than what he did in May (-22 wRC+) and June (-50 wRC+.) Also, I'm not sure how much stock we should put into how he performs in Spring Training next season considering he hit the cover off the ball this past Spring Training.

 

[sportscoach]

In the month of August, over 54 plate appearances, he has a wRC+ of 37 with a wOBA of .226. An OPS of .506 if you prefer that stat. As brutal as those numbers are, to your point, it's better than what he did in May (-22 wRC+) and June (-50 wRC+.) Also, I'm not sure how much stock we should put into how he performs in Spring Training next season considering he hit the cover off the ball this past Spring Training.

Sometimes though guys put too much pressure on themselves to be an All-Star rather than just be themselves... Hammy was even saying his ABs have been noticably better. He is working counts, and isn't chasing pitches like he was earlier though. I would put good money his BABIP is super low and his actual barrel%, line drive % etc is looking better than it was earlier in the season.

 

[Kevalier]

Sometimes though guys put too much pressure on themselves to be an All-Star rather than just be themselves... Hammy was even saying his ABs have been noticably better. He is working counts, and isn't chasing pitches like he was earlier though. I would put good money his BABIP is super low and his actual barrel%, line drive % etc is looking better than it was earlier in the season.

Hammy is friends with Owen Miller's family, so I wouldn't expect him to be objective. Just like he constantly fawns over the Royals organization, while his son was a scout for them.

 

[Real Deal]

I understand it's hard to be positive regarding Owen because of the upcoming players behind him. If he figures out his hitting approach in the MLB, he fits somewhere.

 

[Criznit]

In regards to the "newcomers" or "underperformers" how much of a major league sample do you (we) actually require?

100 games? 200 games? 300 games? Is Jake Bauers complete run in Cleveland about right or too much or?

 

[CDAV45]

In the month of August, over 54 plate appearances, he has a wRC+ of 37 with a wOBA of .226. An OPS of .506 if you prefer that stat. As brutal as those numbers are, to your point, it's better than what he did in May (-22 wRC+) and June (-50 wRC+.) Also, I'm not sure how much stock we should put into how he performs in Spring Training next season considering he hit the cover off the ball this past Spring Training.

How he was hitting in ST is a long way away from when he was promoted. In between ST and his promotion was ridiculous numbers in Columbus. Look, there's no denying that Owen has struggled mightily, but you can't write him off just yet.

For what it's worth, I'd put more stock into how he finishes this season then I would any ST numbers. I still think he's a good hitter and it will take more time failing then what we've seen so far to convince me otherwise. Especially in a season when offense in general is diminished for some reason.