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2022 Cleveland Guardians Regular Season Thread

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Hey bub.

Were you also wanting the organization to write off Jose Ramirez mid-June 2019 when his OPS was sub .600?

My question sounds rhetorical but it's not, bub

-resident rational thinking expert (AKA "bub")
I was not. I also suggest you shouldn’t compare what Jose had accomplished in his career to that point to what Straw had prior to this season.

My direct answer to your question aside I can’t help but notice that I’m still waiting on a number of PAs bub. You won’t answer because you know deep down that Straw is exactly what we’re seeing this season. That’s why this Straw issue is tying so many people in knots. It’s not because he stinks but they have confidence he’ll suddenly rebound and have a great close to the season. It’s because they know he won’t.
 
Are we granted your permission to complain about Ernie Clement hitting 7th today and playing in every game this series?

By all means, don't let me get in the way of you wetting the bed on that subject another dozen times.

Ask your therapist if it helps you cope.
 
I was not. I also suggest you shouldn’t compare what Jose had accomplished in his career to that point to what Straw had prior to this season.

My direct answer to your question aside I can’t help but notice that I’m still waiting on a number of PAs bub. You won’t answer because you know deep down that Straw is exactly what we’re seeing this season. That’s why this Straw issue is tying so many people in knots. It’s not because he stinks but they have confidence he’ll suddenly rebound and have a great close to the season. It’s because they know he won’t.

Don't speak for everyone my friend...
 
I was not. I also suggest you shouldn’t compare what Jose had accomplished in his career to that point to what Straw had prior to this season.

My direct answer to your question aside I can’t help but notice that I’m still waiting on a number of PAs bub. You won’t answer because you know deep down that Straw is exactly what we’re seeing this season. That’s why this Straw issue is tying so many people in knots. It’s not because he stinks but they have confidence he’ll suddenly rebound and have a great close to the season. It’s because they know he won’t.
Hey bub, glad to hear you weren't one of those absolute morons from 2019

In your last post you mentioned Straw has 320 plate appearances this season of being the worst hitter in baseball. While that might be true, as the resident rational thinking expert, I'd point out, bub, that Straw had a very productive April in 93 plate appearances. .291 / .387 / .380

So his slump, which has been horrible, is truly only over his past 227 plate appearances. As the resident rational thinking expert (you said it, not me), I know that it's not rational to make sweeping judgements based off a sample size consisting of 1/3 of a season.

As far as deep down not having confidence in Straw rebounding, that's absolutely not true. He has a substantial sample size of success and brings plenty to the table from a defensive and baserunning perspective. Despite not being able to hit for a lick for the past 2 months, he's still been walking at a respectable rate (11% since 5/1 and 9% since 6/1), striking out at a reasonable rate (15.9% since 5/1 and 19.7% since 6/1) while bringing elite base running and elite defense to the table. I'm not suggesting he'll absolutely turn it around this season- he very well may not, same with Franmil. But I'm not willing to give up on either guy as I believe both are good players.

You're not going to see me defending guys like Owen Miller, Ernie Clement, etc. because those guys don't have any track record of success at the major league level nor do they possess some of the elite traits that we see from some of the slumping players like Franmil (immense power) and Straw (baserunning, defense, OBP). Edit- Straw's OBP isn't elite, but above average.

If he's still in the gutter 12 months from now I'll be more inclined to want to move on.

I realize this is probably a waste of time because you'd probably prefer sit, whine, and call anyone bub who doesn't agree with you
 
This is so dumb. Just intentionally stupid and devoid of logic.
You’re the guy who literally proposed shutting down the game of baseball because fans wanted to demote Myles Straw.

Let that sink in.

I suppose that was fully logical and only unintentionally stupid.
 
By all means, don't let me get in the way of you wetting the bed on that subject another dozen times.

Ask your therapist if it helps you cope.
You seem like a lovely bloke. If you're ever in NYC, we should grab a beer!
 
Quit feeding the trolls.

I'm all for taking the trolls privileges away when they're misquoting and simply making up the arguments of others to attempt to continue doing what they're doing.

Considering that more has been handed down to more well-respected posters, I've never quite understood this double standard and long leash here.

Shitposting isn't going to get better when their entire purpose is shitposting.
 
2.5 games out of the wild card, 4.5 out of the divisional lead, with 82 games to go.

Much of the mainstream discourse about the team is an outrage contest about lineup optimization and/or constant bed-wetting about needing to send half the club down and bring up people who have never seen a lick of MLB action.

Some of coming from people who promised to swear off the club because their mascot was retired.


Man, its not just MLB which has a hard time marketing the game. Its becoming more obvious that the fan culture itself is not built for lengthy seasons and anything other than instant gratification.

Rough. The team not playing well seems magnified far more than the previous run they were on before it, same as it ever was.
Quoted for posterity. Paragon of logical and even-keeled baseball discussion.
 
I mean no offense but @DickyLeftridge take a step back from talking in major league thread for a moment and let this argument pass... focus on minor leagues and the draft coming up ya know?

First off, track record says Straw should be able to right the ship and majority of the posters believe that. He does have a long leash, but I do expect if he keeps struggling to get his playing time as a starter cut. Let's see how he recovers from this rough time. It's a very good test for us to see if Straw can be a starter or a 4th guy long term...

Secondly, put @AZ_ on ignore and AZ kind of do the same. You two will never ever see eye to eye and for the rest of us, it's best you ignore each other...
 
Quit feeding the trolls.
They're like feral cats.. you feed them.. they keep coming back..and then you have little baby trolls all over the place.. The humane society will only take just so many...
 
They're like feral cats.. you feed them.. they keep coming back..and then you have little baby trolls all over the place.. The humane society will only take just so many...

I don't think the humane society will even think about touching our trolls lol
 
I was not. I also suggest you shouldn’t compare what Jose had accomplished in his career to that point to what Straw had prior to this season.

My direct answer to your question aside I can’t help but notice that I’m still waiting on a number of PAs bub. You won’t answer because you know deep down that Straw is exactly what we’re seeing this season. That’s why this Straw issue is tying so many people in knots. It’s not because he stinks but they have confidence he’ll suddenly rebound and have a great close to the season. It’s because they know he won’t.
I see that the Reno Aces have a good CF. Should we trade for him?
 
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