2022 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

[I'mWithDan]

Yeah, but did he get any free tattoos?

Definitely a missed opportunity with Tressel. I actually would have loved to see him in the NIL landscape. Ohio State probably would have put Miami to shame.

 

[Ohio]

Firearms generally freak me out anywhere outside of am environment like the range or hunting. Where there is a very specific purpose for them. I can't imagine feeling comfortable in a car, just driving around with an unconcealed weapon.

Probably the only thing that is going to save his ass here is that he legally purchased and registered the gun. Had he not done that, he'd probably be spending a not insignificant amount of time in prison.

He also violated the golden rule in college, which is never commit more than 1 crime at a time. He's lucky he didn't end his career or kill someone.

It's mind boggling to me that he not only has gotten no punishment whatsoever for this, but he boarded the team plane at 3pm the very same day he was arrested.

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Just a really...bizarre story, honestly. I also find the lack of attention from the media around this story stunning.

Yeah, but did he get any free tattoos?

Would be serving a life sentence if he did...

 

[I'mWithDan]

It's mind boggling to me that he not only has gotten no punishment whatsoever for this, but he boarded the team plane at 3pm the very same day he was arrested.

To me, most of my judgement is reserved for what exactly was happening with his conceal and carry permit. If he applied for that license and was just waiting for it to be processed, maybe he has some slack to cut, as he bought and registered the gun legally. Why the fuck he needs it is another conversation all together.

If he didn't have the proper paperwork processing, absolutely, the guy should be suspended (also past tense.....should have already been). I'm genuinely curious what the status of that is......as I think it is the detail that would make the AD look pretty bad (if they knew it was concealing the gun without a license).

Just a really...bizarre story, honestly. I also find the lack of attention from the media around this story stunning.

Not just that.....the details have been all over the place as well. First, the gun was loaded. Then it wasn't. Then it was unclear or not reported. They said he was clocked going in excess of 50+ MPH. Then it was, the officer estimated he was going 50 MPH. Initially, I heard it was hundreds of rounds of ammo. Now it says 3 magazines. The weird phrasing about when the gun was found and what Smith said.

Relative to how uncommon a story like this is, in the field of college athletics, the reporting has been not only more sparse but then also just all over the place relative to the specific details. I don't know who's fault that is....media, police, university, all three?

 

[Urban]

Kinda surprised OSU would be favored over UM considering what happened in Columbus. I figured it would be a pick. I can’t imagine the betting public would be on OSU in that one. The others aren’t surprising

Late to the discussion but Georgia was a 2.5 pt favorite National Title Game last year vs. Bama despite losing to them by 17 a few weeks prior

 

[Ohio]

Relative to how uncommon a story like this is, in the field of college athletics, the reporting has been not only more sparse but then also just all over the place relative to the specific details. I don't know who's fault that is....media, police, university, all three?

In order, I'd probably place the fault at: Police, media, then university.

Police cutting him loose merely hours (minutes?) after his arrest is wild. Apparently "the guy" responsible for letting him walk is a huge Michigan football fan and it's all over his social media...

Couple that with the lack of details, and differing details, and the police look incredibly bad in this situation IMO.

Secondly, the lack of reporting from the media on this is pretty astonishing. The police should be getting lambasted for how they've handled this. And the media should be asking hard questions to Michigan about it as well. Instead, they asked one time, Manuel & Harbaugh made a statement and its largely been ignored ever since.

From a university perspective, it's definitely a bad look, but it's no different than what any SEC school would do, for example. I suppose all this really does is end their charade of "doing things the right way"

 

[I'mWithDan]

In order, I'd probably place the fault at: Police, media, then university.

Police cutting him loose merely hours (minutes?) after his arrest is wild. Apparently "the guy" responsible for letting him walk is a huge Michigan football fan and it's all over his social media...

Couple that with the lack of details, and differing details, and the police look incredibly bad in this situation IMO.

Secondly, the lack of reporting from the media on this is pretty astonishing. The police should be getting lambasted for how they've handled this. And the media should be asking hard questions to Michigan about it as well. Instead, they asked one time, Manuel & Harbaugh made a statement and its largely been ignored ever since.

Wouldn't it be pretty unusual for a non violent weapons offense like this to not be discharged fairly quickly? If he has no priors, was compliant, is not a flight risk and legally owned and registered the firearm? Honestly, that part doesn't raise my eyebrows. The weapon is probably seized and he is tasked with appearing in court.

The fact that charges were not brought for what? 6 weeks? That is the eyebrow raiser. And not only that but the PD was so tight lipped about it, it never leaked to the media.

From a university perspective, it's definitely a bad look, but it's no different than what any SEC school would do, for example. I suppose all this really does is end their charade of "doing things the right way"

I think a lot of it will depend on how the licensing stuff shakes out. If the university's position is, he applied for the permit, made the bad judgement of concealing it (however that is defined) prior to the license arriving in the mail and we think it was an isolated mistake.....seems somewhat reasonable.

Reasonable if the student athlete has a great track record in class and off the field. If he just didn't bother to apply for the license, was concealing the gun around campus, the university knows this and leaned on "due process" then sure, start the charade talk. That seems really bad to me, when a 1 or 2 game suspension could have easily been levied at the time.

The whole thing is more forgivable if he bought the gun legally, registered the gun as he should and applied for the appropriate permit (prior to the traffic stop). If he didn't do ANY of those 3 things, he deserves A LOT less leniency here.....regardless of his track record. The speeding on campus is and will remain incredibly reckless.

 

[Rich]

Man I know it's his alma matter but Purdue losing their coach, who just had his team in the Big Ten title game, to Louisville? That's a bad look.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

Man I know it's his alma matter but Purdue losing their coach, who just had his team in the Big Ten title game, to Louisville? That's a bad look.

I personally think it’s a great move for him. The ACC sucks. He’s never going to make the playoffs at Purdue when he has to go through UM, OSU, PSU, USC, UCLA, and potential resurgent Nebraska and Wisconsin. That’s seven massive programs with way more history and resources. They were in the Big 10 Championship game and wouldn’t have sniffed a 12-team playoff.

He might already be the best coach in the ACC, even with Dabo there. His offense will appeal to a lot of the southern athletes that wouldn’t even think about going to Purdue.

 

[Rich]

I personally think it’s a great move for him. The ACC sucks. He’s never going to make the playoffs at Purdue when he has to go through UM, OSU, PSU, USC, UCLA, and potential resurgent Nebraska and Wisconsin. That’s seven massive programs with way more history and resources. They were in the Big 10 Championship game and wouldn’t have sniffed a 12-team playoff.

He might already be the best coach in the ACC, even with Dabo there. His offense will appeal to a lot of the southern athletes that wouldn’t even think about going to Purdue.

I didn't say it wasn't a great move for him.

It's a bad look for Purdue and the Big Ten. But mostly Purdue.

They shouldn't be losing football coaches to Louisville. NOt with the money they bring in by merely being in the Big Ten.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

I didn't say it wasn't a great move for him.

It's a bad look for Purdue and the Big Ten. But mostly Purdue.

They shouldn't be losing football coaches to Louisville. NOt with the money they bring in by merely being in the Big Ten.

Purdue being in the Big 10 isn’t the end all, be all you’re making it out to be.

2021 Football Expenses:

Purdue: $18,882,482
Louisville: $23,075,176

Source: https://www.knightcommission.org/finances-college-sports/

So Louisville is his alma mater. He was born in Louisville. He went to high school in Louisville. He previously coached at Louisville. They have a bigger budget, less competition, a better stadium and better facilities.

It’s not like he left Purdue to go coach at Toledo. He left for another Power 5 program that has more resources, better facilities, and a deep personal connection. Not sure how that’s a bad look for Purdue.

 

[Rich]

Purdue being in the Big 10 isn’t the end all, be all you’re making it out to be.

2021 Football Expenses:

Purdue: $18,882,482
Louisville: $23,075,176

Source: https://www.knightcommission.org/finances-college-sports/

So Louisville is his alma mater. He was born in Louisville. He went to high school in Louisville. He previously coached at Louisville. They have a bigger budget, less competition, a better stadium and better facilities.

It’s not like he left Purdue to go coach at Toledo. He left for another Power 5 program that has more resources, better facilities, and a deep personal connection. Not sure how that’s a bad look for Purdue.

You're missing it man. THe bolded is the embarrassing part. That shouldn't be, and Purdue should be embarrassed that Louisville can outspend them.

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

You're missing it man. THe bolded is the embarrassing part. That shouldn't be, and Purdue should be embarrassed that Louisville can outspend them.

I’m not sure why, but you seem to be in some fantasy world where another P5 school couldn’t possibly have the money of bottom tier Big 10 schools. Louisville’s spending is within $1.5M of half the teams in the Big 10. Louisville has some donors with deep pockets and there’s no pro sports teams in Louisville (or Kentucky) which is naturally going to raise interest and support.

Also, Louisville has been far more nationally relevant than Purdue over the past 20 years. They’ve had multiple 10+ win seasons, a Heisman Trophy winner, a Sugar Bowl win, etc.

 

[Huber.]

These guys are pumped for tonight

 

[Bob_The_Cat]

These guys are pumped for tonight

The Heisman Trophy, aka"Whatever QB's are the healthiest on the highest ranked team" award.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Only game that matters is the game today.