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2022 Season | Series #21 | Guardians @ Dodgers | June 17-19, 2022

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CATS44 said:
A question:

Because of having to play 18 games in 16 days, every pitcher on the roster is going to have to pitch in a meaningful situation.

Who would you rather see then....Castro or Sandlin?
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Sandlin still gets a look. High leverage games coming up, let's see if his confidence gets right.

Now stop fucking around and put Straw in the 9 hole already. He's abysmal.
 
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Although he's wild, Sandlin is still tough to hit. In his last 15 appearances:

14.1 IP, 8 hits, 2 earned runs (1.26 ERA), 16 walks, 11 K's. Everything looks great except for the walks. The G's went 10-5 in those games and Sandlin was responsible for one loss when he came in to pitch the 10th against Cincy with a runner on 2nd and walked three batters, including the winning run.

However, it's not uncommon for a relief pitcher starting an inning with a runner on second to allow the run to score. All it takes is a ground ball and a sac fly, or a single.

The question is whether it would be a good idea to send him down and let him pitch three times a week so he can get his command back. Right now he's pitching very infrequently - 4 appearances in the last 21 days.
 
thestatman said:
Oscar Gonzalez will not be sent down. Absolutely no way. His first crack in the majors, and he's hitting 337. Mercado has been given way more time than he deserved and he showed he cannot hit major league pitching. He will be DFA'd and then resigned just like Bradley was. Nobody will sign him.

Castro will go as well. There were much better options than him for last week's call up. 40 man roster can always be adjusted.
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I agree on OGon but it won’t be Mercado either. Without officially announcing it, Tito already said they want Palacios getting everyday ABs. He’s proven he can stay ready for a pinch hit role but they know that’s not best for his long term development. Mercado is what he is, a 5th OFer with defensive replacement/pinch running value.
 
For those whose heads may explode, skip this one....

The Twins rotation hasn't been able to provide innings over the last month, and the pen is paying the price.

Their rotation is averaging 4.9 IP per start with an ERA of 4.45. The pen, under pressure of overuse, has an ERA of 4.57. Overall, the staff is at 4.50.

Chicago is in the same boat. Its rotation is averaging 4.8 IP per start with an ERA of 4.84. Its pen, also overworked, sits at 4.53. Overall, the staff is at 4.69.

Minnesotas ERA over the last month ranks 11th in the league in ERA. Chicago ranks 12th.

Cleveland in that period has a rotation that has averaged 5.9 IP per start with an ERA of 3.62. The pen ERA is 1.66. Overall its 2.97...3rd in the league.

One staff is going in one direction. The other two are going in another.
 
CATS44 said:
One staff is going in one direction. The other two are going in another.
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Are you saying that Cleveland's staff is N'Sync? Even when its 98 degrees out? How about all of our new kids in the box on offense? One day we will see them go from boys 2 men.

It was just fathers day, i dont care, i can make awful dad jokes if I want
 
Lord Mar said:
Who is more likely to win a championship this year?

Former Indians?
Browns with or without Watson?
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I gotta go Browns only with Watson plus all of their accumulated talent because we expect not only to make the playoffs, but win a game or 2 or 3.

Different story with Guardians. Never expected them to make the postseason. Winning a series will be very tough.
 
Real Deal said:
I gotta go Browns only with Watson plus all of their accumulated talent because we expect not only to make the playoffs, but win a game or 2 or 3.

Different story with Guardians. Never expected them to make the postseason. Winning a series will be very tough.
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I agree....but I kind of feel the same way about the newly Guardians as I did about the Nationals in 2019 before I bet on them to win the WS right before the All-star break with a losing record.
 
Lord Mar said:
I agree....but I kind of feel the same way about the newly Guardians as I did about the Nationals in 2019 before I bet on them to win the WS right before the All-star break with a losing record.
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Hard to imagine not winning a World Series or even a series with Brantley, Lindor, Hosey, old Edwin smacking 38 HRs, Santana, Yan/Berto, and the pitching.

Baseball just isn't fair to Cleveland. I'll never assume a WS win, it'll happen when everyone least expects it. So maybe this is the team...
 
CATS44 said:
For those whose heads may explode, skip this one....

The Twins rotation hasn't been able to provide innings over the last month, and the pen is paying the price.

Their rotation is averaging 4.9 IP per start with an ERA of 4.45. The pen, under pressure of overuse, has an ERA of 4.57. Overall, the staff is at 4.50.

Chicago is in the same boat. Its rotation is averaging 4.8 IP per start with an ERA of 4.84. Its pen, also overworked, sits at 4.53. Overall, the staff is at 4.69.

Minnesotas ERA over the last month ranks 11th in the league in ERA. Chicago ranks 12th.

Cleveland in that period has a rotation that has averaged 5.9 IP per start with an ERA of 3.62. The pen ERA is 1.66. Overall its 2.97...3rd in the league.

One staff is going in one direction. The other two are going in another.
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Great point about the G's bullpen having a 1.66 ERA over the last month (easily the best in the majors - next closest is 2.18) while the Twins rank 23rd at 4.57.

In terms of being overworked, the Twins bullpen is averaging 4.0 innings per game while the G's bullpen is at 3.3. Over the course of 162 games that comes out to a difference of 113 innings. Divided among 7 relief pitchers that's 16 innings per pitcher, or an extra inning every 10 games. I'm not sure that is enough to make a difference.

However, that assumes the workload is divided evenly, which it isn't. If you only have 3-4 dependable relievers and the starters are averaging 4.9 innings then there will be times when the game is close in the 6th or 7th and you have to bring in somebody who has not been reliable.
 
Workload on a bullpen usually...not always...makes a big difference.

Taking Tampa out of the equation (they are different...lol), lets look at 2021.

The three most used bullpens had the three highest ERAs.

The five sub 4.00 pens ranked 8-9-10-11 and 14 in usage.

This season there are three bullpens with ERAs below 3.00. They rank 12-13-15 in usage.

Minus the Rays, the Twins and Sox are second and third in usage...8th and 12th in ERA.

The old adage is that the baseball season is a marathon, and marathons are races of attrition. If Minnesota and Chicago don't somehow start getting some length out of their rotations, the bullpens will be fried by September.
 
CATS44 said:
For those whose heads may explode, skip this one....

The Twins rotation hasn't been able to provide innings over the last month, and the pen is paying the price.

Their rotation is averaging 4.9 IP per start with an ERA of 4.45. The pen, under pressure of overuse, has an ERA of 4.57. Overall, the staff is at 4.50.

Chicago is in the same boat. Its rotation is averaging 4.8 IP per start with an ERA of 4.84. Its pen, also overworked, sits at 4.53. Overall, the staff is at 4.69.

Minnesotas ERA over the last month ranks 11th in the league in ERA. Chicago ranks 12th.

Cleveland in that period has a rotation that has averaged 5.9 IP per start with an ERA of 3.62. The pen ERA is 1.66. Overall its 2.97...3rd in the league.

One staff is going in one direction. The other two are going in another.
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