2023 Cleveland Guardians Season Thread

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I'm just glad he's on the DL due to a concerning hip injury and not because he hit a fictional innings limit.
 
MD13 said:
Is Volpe really up for it? I get he's been playing SS all year but he's been such a bad hitter.
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MadThinker88 said:
Josh Jung from Texas should finish ahead of Volpe in the voting.

Bibee at #2 & Jung at #3
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By bWAR he is actually ranked 3rd.... Now remember that factors in both hitting and defense.

If you go by bWAR just specifically for this season

1- SS Gunner Henderson (Balt) 5.9
2 - SP Bibee (Cle) 3.5
3 - SS Volpe (NYY) 3.3
4 - c/1B Yainer Diaz (Hou) 3.1
5 - RP Tyler Holton (Det) 2.6
6 - SS Royce Lewis (Min) 2.4
7 - 2B Edouard Julian (Min) 2.3
8t - 3B Josh Jung (Tex) 2.2
- 1B Triston Casas (Bos) 2.2
- Util Jose Caballero (Sea) 2.2

Now, it doesn't mean the votes will go that way, but bWAR ranks the rookies this way for the 23 season...

Bibee should be number 2 regardless of what stat is used...
 
BimboColesHair said:
He was not.

He was going to finish out the season and be under by a decent bit. All 3 rookies were set up to finish out the season without being shutdown.
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To me he is was close enough... He was at 157 while last season he got to 133... last season... 20% more innings would have essentially been 160, and 30% would have been near 173/175... He would have gotten to 170 more than likely in 2 more starts... Eh, he's close enough in my book...
 
sportscoach said:
To me he is was close enough... He was at 157 while last season he got to 133... last season... 20% more innings would have essentially been 160, and 30% would have been near 173/175... He would have gotten to 170 more than likely in 2 more starts... Eh, he's close enough in my book...
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I want you to go sit in the corner and think about what you did.
 
Any momentum that this team ever tried starting was zapped by the feces throwing infestation of a bullpen. Not looking forward to next season knowing the top guys of the pen are question marks.
 
Real Deal said:
Any momentum that this team ever tried starting was zapped by the feces throwing infestation of a bullpen. Not looking forward to next season knowing the top guys of the pen are question marks.
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Bullpens are fickle. Or at least the Gs bullpens are. One thing to note: no reclamation project this year, like Dos Santos, for them to build up, because the pen was so 'set' coming off last year. This coaching staff, if they stick around, should be able to find a decent arm or two to help round out an effective pen. Plus, having an actual effective offense might take some pressure off this pen so these guys don't feel like every blown save is an instant loss since this team can't come back from any kind of deficit.
 
macbdog said:
Bullpens are fickle. Or at least the Gs bullpens are. One thing to note: no reclamation project this year, like Dos Santos, for them to build up, because the pen was so 'set' coming off last year. This coaching staff, if they stick around, should be able to find a decent arm or two to help round out an effective pen. Plus, having an actual effective offense might take some pressure off this pen so these guys don't feel like every blown save is an instant loss since this team can't come back from any kind of deficit.
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That's the thing. Bullpens will forever be year-to-year. If your team is good, look at the bullpen first, I bet they are performing good. Doesn't matter if you're averaging 4.23 runs per contest, like the Guards last year. Small market's like us has to depend heavily on the bullpen being a strength year in and year out. We're not slugging our way to victory.
 
Wham with the Right Hand said:
Fangraphs has a column that includes an interview with Gavin Williams about his fastball. Here's a portion:

The Fayetteville, North Carolina native first hit triple digits during his freshman year at East Carolina University, and as meaningful as that milestone was to his identity on the mound, he recognizes that retiring big-league hitters takes more than pure velocity.

“I don’t think 96 to 100 is that big of a difference,” Williams said. “If it’s down the middle it can get hit. Putting it where you want to is a bigger thing. It also matters how it moves.”

Williams gets good ride — “anywhere between 16 and 18 vert” — and he also possesses elite perceived velocity. Per Statcast, he ranks in the 99th percentile for extension, an attribute that only began augmenting his heater this season.

“It has changed big time from last year to this year,” explained Williams, who debuted with the Guardians on June 21 and has a 3.43 ERA and a 4.22 FIP over 76 big-league innings. “Last year it was 6-5 extension, and this year it is more like 7-5. We fixed some things mechanically. I’m staying more connected to the rubber now. I’m not cutting myself off; I’m staying more direct to the plate.”

Williams answered “absolutely” when I asked if he identifies as a power pitcher, and Carl Willis used the same term when appraising the highly-regarded youngster. According to Cleveland’s pitching coach, what the hard-thrower mostly needs is more repetitions against baseball’s best hitters.

“He’s got the power, and he spins the ball well, so t’s just a matter of gaining more experience,” said Willis. “With experience comes consistency. A pitcher with good stuff can out-stuff a hitter in the minors, but t’s a lot more difficult to do that at this level. There are some things you just can’t replicate in the minor leagues. The more major-league hitters he’ll face, the more comfortable he’ll get, and the more consistent he’s going to get. He’s got a chance to be a really good pitcher up here.”
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I hope Willis stays on with the new manager. Sandy too.
 
BimboColesHair said:
He was not.

He was going to finish out the season and be under by a decent bit. All 3 rookies were set up to finish out the season without being shutdown.
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Did they have innings budgeted for a hypothetical playoff appearance too? Sorry if this has been answered before.
 
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