2024-25 Season | Game #77 | Cavs @ Spurs | Apr. 4, 2025 | 8:00 p.m.


nolookpass said:
Right, Donovan did hit that mid range game winner against the Bucks, but it was off of a broken, bobbled-up play. And I don’t doubt that Garland has hit some. I guess my point is that it’s not their strength or comfort zone.

Now more of a general point: Whether we like it or not, during end of game situations, especially if your team is up, the play is give the ball to one of your best players and let him go iso. All teams do it. And in those situations, the shot that’s often the most available is the mid range shot just because 3s are gonna be heavily contested (or you don’t need a 3), and teams are gonna pack the paint to not give up layups.

Just listing several top guys off the top of my head, you can totally see the following guys creating a decent quality mid range shot just because they’re comfortable and are used to the shot: SGA, Tatum, Brown, Booker, KD, Luka, Ant. The Kings finished us off with DeRozan and Monk mid range shots during our losing streak. I actually even think LeBron not having a stronger mid range game has hurt him in these situations in his career.

You don’t NEED to shoot the mid range shot to win the game at all. But it’s a very potent weapon at the end of games that our top players are not strong at. Really hope it doesn’t come to bite us in the playoffs. Tonight, both Garland and Mitchell insisted on going all the way to the basket with a minute to go when the paint was packed. We all saw what happened
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Totally correct. They’re more than capable.

Personally I think the mid range 2s of yesteryear at end of game situations always left me thinking why didn’t he drive all the way to the cup and either finish or find the open man. Maybe it was watching some of Le-ISO over the years.

I think you’re bang-on about our guys. Garland’s mid-range seems to have dropped off where he was tracking to be Paul or Kyrie-lite. Stats may prove I’m talking garbage though.
 
Im fine with going to the middy in late game scenarios. The modern offense mostly got rid of the role player middy but your stars need thst shot to open up their drives and space.

Anyway I'd rather we do set plays than some iso nonsense but sometimes iso nonsense works
 
Wtf??? I turn it off with 3 minutes to go because I didn't feel like watching foul shots and staring at a tiny screen. Can we not just get the ball into the paint and have the clock be the enemy? Instead turnover and missed 3s? Disgusting.
 
Futuredome said:
Mitchland ego
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Just ugly. I went back and saw the Hunter midrange jumper miss, garland floater make, Mitchell to Mobley turnover, garland slop layup trash shot, Mitchell airball 3, and then poor possession. Meanwhile they hit 3 straight 3s.
 
2 For The Brew said:
Regarding the Hunter small ball lineup: Mobley needed a rest and both Allen and Wade were unavailable. Spurs were small, quick and athletic so TT was not an option. Kenny didn’t have another option to insert as a big.
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What’s this thing called rest? Our training staff should have the boys in better shape it is April now. For the boys not to be in shape and need rest at this point again in the season is another example of why this training staff needs to go in the offseason.
 
I was prepared to say great things about this game, especially how it started.
That 4th quarter was unacceptable. All the bad things that happen in losses were amplified: turnovers, dumb offense (FEED THE BIGS!!!!), and the worst of all, lackluster defense allowing shooters to go free. Repeatedly giving these guys space (even when you could chalk it up to tough shots).

Besides the moments when either one of Allen and Mobley are unavailable to go in lineups, the biggest vulnerability of this team is the lack of focus. That Evan Mobley could barely get the ball during that Spurs run on offense is unexcusable on a night where he was awesome.

Hopefully Dean Wade is back soon.
 
Watched the replay( cause everytime I watch cavs live they seem to lose) and there was a big contrast in ball movement from the 1st half to the 2nd half. Also, not having Allen in the 2nd half was a big factor.

Just need to win 1 more game and cavs can rest and prep for the playoffs.
 
Yea bro, just catch the replay from here on out...
 
bushwick_bill said:
What’s this thing called rest? Our training staff should have the boys in better shape it is April now. For the boys not to be in shape and need rest at this point again in the season is another example of why this training staff needs to go in the offseason.
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The nerve of Allen to take the second half off when he’s played every half of every game.

But you’re right, it’s all on the training staffs, who were much better in my day when players played 48, pitchers went nine innings and Chuck Bednarik went both ways* in the 1960 Championship Game. That’s when men were men.













*Played both offense and defense (57 of 60 minutes), NOT …
 
Dr. Claw said:
I was prepared to say great things about this game, especially how it started.
That 4th quarter was unacceptable. All the bad things that happen in losses were amplified: turnovers, dumb offense (FEED THE BIGS!!!!), and the worst of all, lackluster defense allowing shooters to go free. Repeatedly giving these guys space (even when you could chalk it up to tough shots).

Besides the moments when either one of Allen and Mobley are unavailable to go in lineups, the biggest vulnerability of this team is the lack of focus. That Evan Mobley could barely get the ball during that Spurs run on offense is unexcusable on a night where he was awesome.

Hopefully Dean Wade is back soon.
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Only one big to get the ball to and he played quite a bit in the 2nd half, but we do need to pound the ball inside against midget teams.

Totally agree on lack of focus. The guards were jacking and just managed to get under the covers before Mom burst through the bedroom door. Nearly got caught red … handed. And yes, it would have been about as embarrassing.
 
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