2024 Guardians Spring Training Thread

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Wham with the Right Hand said:
The thinking is that if Juan Brito forces his way into the lineup, and Bimbo has been raving about him, it will be at 2B with Gimenez moving to short, where his glove is elite and his bat will play just fine. That pushes Arias to right field, a position he has already played in the majors, although only a few games.

Why right field? He hits for power and has a cannon for an arm, so that screams right field. And all we have there now is Brennan and Laureano, at least until DeLauter arrives.

I'm not saying he'll definitely end up in right, but if Brito turns into the next Jose and we HAVE to get his bat into the lineup then moving Arias to right field would be the only way to have Brito, Gimenez, and Arias all in the lineup. I assume Josh Naylor and Manzardo are sharing the 1B/DH jobs and Tyler Freeman is the UIF.
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If Brito ends up our secondbaseman then both Arias and Rocchio have failed. Seeing how both are in their early 20's I'd say declaring them failures is yrs away.

They do not want to move Gimenez off of 2B and Vogt has stated that moving him is not preferred.

RF opportunities need to be given to Rodriguez and Brennan for now. If Florial can lockdown CF then DeLauter will need reps somewhere when he's ready. Brito's best opportunity to crack the ML roster is probably LF, but everyone's favorite littleman occupies that spot. If Brito "turns into the next Jose" then LF should be his.

Clusterfuck!
 
CDAV45 said:
KS, I think Arias hits the ball plenty hard. In fact, he hits it harder than anyone else on the roster. The problem has been with frequency/consistency. He just turned 24 so let's see how he continues to develop. There is nobody else with that type of upside. Not Rocchio, not Martinez, not Freeman and not even Gimenez. Everyone here should be pining for Arias to get a good long look and realize his potential because he's the most dynamic SS we have.
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Arias has worst LD%, LA and flyball pull on the roster. That's a terrible trifecta. He crushes balls into the ground again and again and again.

This is the reason why his "power" hasn't actualized. He has a lot of stuff to fix to tap into his power.

He doesn't have Yandy's contact ability or walk rate to correct it either. He needs to revolutionize his batted ball and I just don't see a way how he gets there. Unless you believe in miracles.
 
Tondo said:
Arias has worst LD%, LA and flyball pull on the roster. That's a terrible trifecta. He crushes balls into the ground again and again and again.

This is the reason why his "power" hasn't actualized. He has a lot of stuff to fix to tap into his power.

He doesn't have Yandy's contact ability or walk rate to correct it either. He needs to revolutionize his batted ball and I just don't see a way how he gets there. Unless you believe in miracles.
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Same problem as Oscar. His ground ball percentage in 2022 was 50.9%, second highest on the team behind Amed. His fly ball percentage was 28.4%, second worst to Amed.

Last year Arias had the highest ground ball percentage on the team at 52.3% and the second lowest fly ball percentage at 29.6%. His numbers were very similar to Oscar's the year before. Both are wasting their excellent power by hitting too many balls into the ground.

If Arias wants to have a successful career he needs to learn to get the ball in the air so his power comes into play. Or at least start turning those ground balls into line drives. As hard as he hits the ball most of his line drives will fall in, and if he hits the gaps he'll get a lot of doubles.
 
Tondo said:
Arias has worst LD%, LA and flyball pull on the roster. That's a terrible trifecta. He crushes balls into the ground again and again and again.

This is the reason why his "power" hasn't actualized. He has a lot of stuff to fix to tap into his power.

He doesn't have Yandy's contact ability or walk rate to correct it either. He needs to revolutionize his batted ball and I just don't see a way how he gets there. Unless you believe in miracles.
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Even with hitting the ball on the ground more often than desired he still was on a 20 HR and 30 2B pace. He's 23, do you not think his LA can get better? All he has to do is improve his LA and put the barrel on the ball a bit more against LHP. He does that then he easily has 30 HR potential to go along with his excellent defense at SS. Again, there is a lot of reference of Arias' development stats because that's all there is to go by, but the problem is too few look at the age and potential. They would prefer what they deem as a "safer" bet in someone like Rocchio, but Rocchio's ceiling doesn't come close to Arias'. Oddly enough Rocchio's shortcomings are rarely spoken of. That's why Arias is here and that's why they are going to give him every chance to succeed. If they're smart that's what they'll do anyway. That's all any of us supporting Arias getting a consistent opportunity has been saying. There are no guarantees with any of these kids, but you can't just shitcan the most talented for lesser, more secure options without due dilligence. That's how a mediocre team is built and if we want to have any shot of competing with big spending teams in the playoffs then we'll need guys like Arias to realize their potential. Right now, Arias is the best option at SS and until he proves he cannot get better then he will be Cleveland's SS.
 
It's hard to hit the ball against MLB pitching.

It's harder to hit the ball against MLB pitching with consistency.

It's harder to get the right part of the bat to the ball against MLB pitching with consistency.

It's harder still to hit the ball hard against MLB pitching with consistency.

It's even harder to hit the ball hard against MLB pitching with the right part of the bat (the barrel) with consistency.

It's significantly easier to tweak a launch angle in the grand scheme of things. But a launch angle over correction can also lead to things you don't want to see, i.e. more IFFBs.
 
I've posted Gabe's highlights before, but never really said anything about it. Here is his HR's of 2023. The HRs alone aren't what catches my eye. Look where he hits them, how hard he hits them and who he hits them off of. These are indicaters that are overlooked IMO and the reasoning behind my belief in his ability. If he just ambushed shit pitchers then I'd be less inclined to pull for his continued opportunity.
 
CDAV45 said:
I've posted Gabe's highlights before, but never really said anything about it. Here is his HR's of 2023. The HRs alone aren't what catches my eye. Look where he hits them, how hard he hits them and who he hits them off of. These are indicaters that are overlooked IMO and the reasoning behind my belief in his ability. If he just ambushed shit pitchers then I'd be less inclined to pull for his continued opportunity.
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Someone on here told us that all of his HRs came in garbage time yet none of those were. Interesting.
 
BMAN said:
Someone on here told us that all of his HRs came in garbage time yet none of those were. Interesting.
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His overall numbers look bad because of how historically bad he looked against lefties... I mean I would trust myself more than him in the batters box against lefties and that's saying something... That's just how bad he was in his splits...

If he fixes his ABs against lefties and keeps what he did against righties... He's easily a 2-3 bWAR a season SS if not higher...

Rocchio is a safer bet as a player, but Arias has a much higher ceiling...
 
sportscoach said:
Rocchio is a safer bet as a player...
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sportscoach said:
His overall numbers look bad because of how historically bad he looked against lefties... I mean I would trust myself more than him in the batters box against lefties and that's saying something... That's just how bad he was in his splits...

If he fixes his ABs against lefties and keeps what he did against righties... He's easily a 2-3 bWAR a season SS if not higher...

Rocchio is a safer bet as a player, but Arias has a much higher ceiling...
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Coach, you don’t have to explain any of this to me. I just wanted to point out the flat out lie from a member of this board.
 
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