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2024 Season | Series #19 | Nationals @ Guardians | May 31 - June 2, 2024

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Has anyone else noticed how often our young hitters go after 2-0 pitches that are up and out of the strike zone helping the pitcher go from 3-0 to 2-1?
Rcristal
I tell you what I have notice, the bottom of the order more often then not have let the starting pitcher off with a low pitch count after the top of the order have ran the pitch count up the previous inning,
 
I tell you what I have notice, the bottom of the order more often then not have let the starting pitcher off with a low pitch count after the top of the order have ran the pitch count up the previous inning,
bottom of the order hitters are almost always the least experienced on the squad... the opposing pitchers know this and attempt to get ahead of them in the count... making what is already a weaker hitter into a very poor and weak hitter.. These young hitters are trained to get after the first fat fastball they see.. In many instances.. it's the only pitch they're going to see that they can handle.. (there is always that chance they'll run into one with two strikes....but.. very unlikely..)..

This is offered as a statement of strategy for these young hitters.. not as an excuse...
 
bottom of the order hitters are almost always the least experienced on the squad... the opposing pitchers know this and attempt to get ahead of them in the count... making what is already a weaker hitter into a very poor and weak hitter.. These young hitters are trained to get after the first fat fastball they see.. In many instances.. it's the only pitch they're going to see that they can handle.. (there is always that chance they'll run into one with two strikes....but.. very unlikely..)..

This is offered as a statement of strategy for these young hitters.. not as an excuse...
I figure that…..
 
I tell you what I have notice, the bottom of the order more often then not have let the starting pitcher off with a low pitch count after the top of the order have ran the pitch count up the previous inning, absolutely!
Rcristal
 
I tell you what I have notice, the bottom of the order more often then not have let the starting pitcher off with a low pitch count after the top of the order have ran the pitch count up the previous inning,
Yes, but Rocchio saw 22 pitches in three at-bats the last game and he's generally been drawing walks and getting deep into counts lately.

The guy who is really hurting us in the bottom third has been Bo Naylor, hitting .173/.512. As a catcher David Fry is hitting .458/1.719. He's 11-for-24 with 8 walks for an on-base percentage of .594. It's a small sample of 32 plate appearances, but the difference between his numbers as a catcher and those of Bo and Hedgie make me wonder how long Vogt is going to keep putting Bo's name on the lineup card when he can replace the team's worst hitter with it's best hitter and not affect the defense.

Fry's catcher ERA is the lowest on the team, by the way.
 
Yes, but Rocchio saw 22 pitches in three at-bats the last game and he's generally been drawing walks and getting deep into counts lately.

The guy who is really hurting us in the bottom third has been Bo Naylor, hitting .173/.512. As a catcher David Fry is hitting .458/1.719. He's 11-for-24 with 8 walks for an on-base percentage of .594. It's a small sample of 32 plate appearances, but the difference between his numbers as a catcher and those of Bo and Hedgie make me wonder how long Vogt is going to keep putting Bo's name on the lineup card when he can replace the team's worst hitter with it's best hitter and not affect the defense.

Fry's catcher ERA is the lowest on the team, by the way.
I will die on this hill, as long as Bo's D continues to improve he's not going nowhere, nor losing at bats bc of his O. I image the conversation from the coaches and FO went something like this: "Bo we love your bat and know you can hit. We want you to earn a platinum glove, we want you to be the best receiver in the game. We understand hitting might regress, you're good enough to get that feel back, but we need you to commit to being a catcher and not just the guy behind the plate. As long as you do that and show improvement we have your back".

I'm not going to look it up but using roughly 14.2% of innings catched is definitely reaching.
 
This org leaned on the elite catching of Berto and Hedges for years. Defense first catching is a mantra here.

Plus, he has hit the snot out of the ball over the last two years and 1000 PAs across three levels.

Bo is also a first round draft pick. The org is invested in him.

Two months isn't changing any of those factors.
 

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