2025 Season | Series #14 | Guardians @ Reds | May 16-18, 2025

WhoAzcue said:
Kayfus is carrying a .488 BABIP. Let's let him settle in a bit. People forget Will Brennan was tearing up AAA this year too. If you're any good at all, AAA isn't much of a mystery.
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Honestly Brennan's AAA numbers were pretty disappointing to me and I say that as someone that wanted him to be starting in the majors this year. He basically mirrored his 2024 MLB line with some extra BABIP.

I expect MLB players to go to AAA and crush because they are too good for it. Brennan weirdly looked like he belonged there. 36% chase rate against AAA pitching, even...
 
KluberSociety said:
We really prioritize the kind of guys who deal with failure well.
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They keep those who seemingly create the most of it so they're well versed with such!

But hey, our minor league affiliates are always in postseason contention!

We invested soooo many resources in MIF throughout the year. Yet 2B & SS continually look like booty.

I don't think Thomas will be some savior for this OF either, more belief in Fry in the DH role on that front...

But my hope remains that Martinez is made an everyday regular on the infield dirt or the outfield grass. He's the one young MLB player outside of Manzo I have immense belief in.
 
Let's just address what we're all thinking most likely... We haven't made the world series since the Chief... We have horrendous uniforms and generic hats....

We have no pizzazz.... Literally no pizzazz whatsoever...

I don't see how we compete without at least a little ?
 
KluberSociety said:
Honestly Brennan's AAA numbers were pretty disappointing to me and I say that as someone that wanted him to be starting in the majors this year. He basically mirrored his 2024 MLB line with some extra BABIP.

I expect MLB players to go to AAA and crush because they are too good for it. Brennan weirdly looked like he belonged there. 36% chase rate against AAA pitching, even...
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Wow, his .304/.340/.419/.759 at Columbus disappointed you? Tough grader. I would have taken anything close to that if he "mirrored" that in a platoon in CLE. Of course, he was crushing it in that Columbus ballpark, which always makes our AAA stats suspect. But I get it, whatever Brennan plays he's pretty much is the same guy there. I still think he'd put up a 100 OPS+ in a platoon arrangement in RF, if just given the job. I'm sure CLE is going to continue to try and kick-start Nolan Jones there, though, which I also get.
 
PIP said:
Let's just address what we're all thinking most likely... We haven't made the world series since the Chief... We have horrendous uniforms and generic hats....

We have no pizzazz.... Literally no pizzazz whatsoever...

I don't see how we compete without at least a little ?
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Do the Cavs have pizzazz? Just wondering. And yes, for the record, our current baseball logo sucks. They have to get back in the design lab and come up with something better. Because the flying G sandwich looks like something a fifth grader cooked up on an Etch-A-Sketch.

But do I think that hasn't anything to do with the product on the field? No, no I don't.
 
WhoAzcue said:
Wow, his .304/.340/.419/.759 at Columbus disappointed you? Tough grader. I would have taken anything close to that if he "mirrored" that in a platoon in CLE. Of course, he was crushing it in that Columbus ballpark, which always makes our AAA stats suspect. But I get it, whatever Brennan plays he's pretty much is the same guy there. I still think he'd put up a 100 OPS+ in a platoon arrangement in RF, if just given the job. I'm sure CLE is going to continue to try and kick-start Nolan Jones there, though, which I also get.
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I mean you posted 4 numbers there, the batting average is fine, but isn't really what I'm paying attention to. His peripheral numbers look about the same this year vs AAA pitchers as they did last year against much tougher MLB pitchers. There is the problem... so I am feeling he actually is doing something worse than last year when he wasn't even what you could call good last year.

Even just looking at results, Noel had a wRC+ of 141 in AAA, JRod had 142 and has 143 this year, and both are firmly in that AAAA category for now. Brennan at 105 just isn't crushing in the way I'd expect Nolan Jones to if he were sent to AAA. I'm not using 140 as a baseline but something better than "slightly above average" would be expected.
 
KluberSociety said:
Even just looking at results, Noel had a wRC+ of 141 in AAA, JRod had 142 and has 143 this year, and both are firmly in that AAAA category for now. Brennan at 105 just isn't crushing in the way I'd expect Nolan Jones to if he were sent to AAA. I'm not using 140 as a baseline but something better than "slightly above average" would be expected.
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I get wanting more, but Brennan has a major league lifetime OPS+ of 112 vs RHP and Noel is at 108 vs LHP. Nolan Jones is at 105 vs. RHP. That's putting each guy in his best position to succeed. Do we really see a huge difference there? I don't. We're picking and choosing among a bunch of guys who are charitably "slightly above average" no matter what their minor league numbers say. Brennan has the floor advantage, the others the ceiling. {shrug} I have no idea what any of these guys would do over the long run if we just closed our eyes and kept writing their name in the lineup. No one seems interested in doing that for obvious reasons.
 
Wham with the Right Hand said:
I'm just hoping that by the second half of this season Delauter will be settled in as our every day right fielder for the rest of this decade and we can forget about these sub .200 guys.
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I'm with you there but something about "DeLauter" and "every day" in the same sentence makes my brain do weird things.
 
WhoAzcue said:
I get wanting more, but Brennan has a major league lifetime OPS+ of 112 vs RHP and Noel is at 108 vs LHP. Nolan Jones is at 105 vs. RHP. That's putting each guy in his best position to succeed. Do we really see a huge difference there? I don't. We're picking and choosing among a bunch of guys who are charitably "slightly above average" no matter what their minor league numbers say. Brennan has the floor advantage, the others the ceiling. {shrug} I have no idea what any of these guys would do over the long run if we just closed our eyes and kept writing their name in the lineup. No one seems interested in doing that for obvious reasons.
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If Brennan 2025 was exactly equal to career Brennan I would take it, it's just a potential downtrend which has worried me. I hope that's not the case but it's something that I would honestly rather figure out in AAA. But given our lack of alternatives I guess it makes sense for him to stay here... for now.
 
Rocchio screwed the pooch, which did a lot to put us in this position. Schneemann just might be our best option in RF...as sad as it sounds...but he's now stuck playing 2B.

One of my biggest stated fears going into the season was that Vogt and the FO would be willing to lose games, while continuing to give Noel and Jones long enough ropes to hang themselves. That has proven to be true.

Another fear was that Vogt and the FO would continue valuing versatility over production and stability. What that has given us is the next to worst CF and RF in MLB. They can't hit RHP and they can't hit LHP...and they can't play solid defense.

Brennan isnt an electrifying player by any stretch of the imagination, but you know what you are going to get. Hes a slightly better than average bat vs RHP....faint praise, indeed...but he's the best present option.

Martinez in CF every freaking day. Thomas and Brennan in RF. Jettison the rest of the pretenders...and hope that the cavalry, Kayfus or Delauter, get here soon...like yesterday.

I do not subscribe to the theory that giving a 23 yr old with a career .947 OPS in the minors 100 MLB at bats will somehow hurt him or stunt his development. If he is told, and understands, his assignment, it can be a great step in his development. He knows he is not up to stay. He knows he is simply here to be himself and soak up as much as he can...then go back and use what he has learned to improve his game.

I've taught almost all my life...all kinds of things...algebra, geometry, baseball, football, basketball, tennis, and chess. One thing I know for sure is that you can't get better without being challenged. In a competitive situation, you can't get better without playing competition that is better than you.

Kayfus has made mincemeat of all the pitching he has seen, in spite of being aggressively advanced. It won't hurt him to get a look at MLB pitching.

As for the present situation, Kayfus CANT BE WORSE.

Our RFs have a combined wRC+ of 41...dead last in baseball. Versus LHP they are MINUS 21. Vs RHP 62. Defensively, they have MINUS 5 DRS, next to worst.

Is there anybody that thinks Kayfus cant at least match those numbers?
 
Kayfus is about a month away from this season not counting towards his big league deal. He needs to stay put. If the season hinges on a rookie rescuing the team its already over. The guys who can actually save the season are on the IL in Beiber, Thomas, Means and Fry.
 
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