2025 Season | Series #4 | White Sox @ Guardians | April 8-10, 2025

Tristan righted himself pretty well. Shutout intact!
 
smalls1129 said:
You've said this twice now, do you have a link to back it up? I believe you were asked before and couldn't find one.
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He's laid out pretty strong evidence that Jones was on the chopping block. Including the fact that, well, they dealt him away for a utility if prospect. You can argue for your semantics if you want but I'm clearly seeing why he should have been a DFA candidate. I root for this kid as much as anyone and I see it.
 
macbdog said:
He's laid out pretty strong evidence that Jones was on the chopping block. Including the fact that, well, they dealt him away for a utility if prospect. You can argue for your semantics if you want but I'm clearly seeing why he should have been a DFA candidate. I root for this kid as much as anyone and I see it.
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But as someone else stated he wasn't anywhere near the chopping block...
 
Also, Colorado is a terribly run organization.
 
macbdog said:
He's laid out pretty strong evidence that Jones was on the chopping block. Including the fact that, well, they dealt him away for a utility if prospect. You can argue for your semantics if you want but I'm clearly seeing why he should have been a DFA candidate. I root for this kid as much as anyone and I see it.
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Really? What "strong evidence" did you see? The only article posted that I saw suggests why Jones was dealt, but also suggested that teams don't typically trade high upside players like Jones for utility players. I also gathered that if Jones were to be DFA'd it wouldn't be until next offseason so there was some time to right the ship. Veen isn't ready so Jones was not getting designated.
 
So I took ten minutes to search articles about NJ, and found nothing mentioning a DFA. The only depth article i found not involving the Guardiabs was this one:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10113604-10-mlb-players-doomed-for-major-regression-in-2024

I am not a BR fan, as i think they just make up shit they think people will read, but the gist of it was ge had a very high BABIP,and therefore was bound to regress this year..

I have heard BABIP discussed in here as a measure of a player getting lucky.. I am not sure I understand how batting average on Balls in play, is a reliable metric for that.. perhaps the theory is that once a ball is in play the result is strongly affected by fielding as opposed to hitting, so if BABIP is higher than the league average, the hitter must be benefitting from shitty fielding?

It seems to me a hitter with better ball placement skills might have a better BABIP than a player who makes contact at the same rate..

But I know nothing really about baseball stats..
 
CleveRocks said:
So I took ten minutes to search articles about NJ, and found nothing mentioning a DFA. The only depth article i found not involving the Guardiabs was this one:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10113604-10-mlb-players-doomed-for-major-regression-in-2024

I am not a BR fan, as i think they just make up shit they think people will read, but the gist of it was ge had a very high BABIP,and therefore was bound to regress this year..

I have heard BABIP discussed in here as a measure of a player getting lucky.. I am not sure I understand how batting average on Balls in play, is a reliable metric for that.. perhaps the theory is that once a ball is in play the result is strongly affected by fielding as opposed to hitting, so if BABIP is higher than the league average, the hitter must be benefitting from shitty fielding?

It seems to me a hitter with better ball placement skills might have a better BABIP than a player who makes contact at the same rate..

But I know nothing really about baseball stats..
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Some people assume "All contact is equal" and therefore believe that someone who has a high BABIP is just lucky.

Other people understand that not all contact is equal, and a player who makes better contact is likely to have a higher BABIP.

Sometimes both of these understandings get put at odds with true outliers like Nolan Jones's .401 BABIP in 2023.

Nolan Jones was lucky. He is not likely to ever repeat that high of a BABIP. For the record, the highest qualifying BABIP last year was .370.

However, Nolan Jones also makes better-than-average contact when he puts the ball in play, so anyone saying they expect his BABIP to be around .300 (the league average) is also not giving him enough credit.
 
I am sure there was some message board discussion about Colorado not keeping Nolan and people put up anything and everything. We even discussed dropping a Brennan once DeLauter is ready.

But, at the end of the day, Jones's competition (based on final roster construction) --
Moniak (starting LF) - DFA dumpster fire pickup
Veen - just called up and Beck sent down (after hitting .150) ... may not have done even that if Jones was around
Doyle -- only real starter in their OF
Bouchard -- another fringe player (hit .187 last year and .154 this year)
Martini -- another DFA/NRI pickup

Looking at this, there is no real reason why Colorado would have dumped Jones over some of these guys (other than Doyle and Veen who was optioned originally).
 
This is the Luis Ortiz game!! Ump already giving Witt the benefit of the doubt.
 
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