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Sir'Dominic Pointer - A Cleveland Cavalier

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Isn't it likely the case that the Cavs simply talked to Pointer before the draft and asked him, if they were to draft him in the second round at #53, whether he would be willing to sign in the D League with Canton, with the possibility that he could join the team later in the year or next year? They probably asked a number of players they were considering at #53. Most probably said that they would try to latch on with another team if the Cavs failed to tender an NBA contract. Or that they would go overseas.

It's a bit of a risk for a player to potentially eschew an overseas opportunity (assuming there would be an opportunity), but staying in the D League does offer a more likely path to the NBA.

Specifically in Pointer's case, he and/or his agent probably realized no other team was going to draft him, and his telling the Cavs that he would be willing to take a D League contract may well be the explanation for why the Cavs drafted him in the first place. But then again it would probably be more advantageous to the Cavs if Pointer were to sign overseas, since they would then retain his NBA rights.

I've frankly been puzzled by the pick, since they could have taken a draft and stash guy at 53, which would have turned into a trade chip which would have had at least some value. It never made much sense for the Cavs to think they could draft a guy at 53 who the Cavs could justify keeping on their 15 man roster given the apparent premium they were placing on each roster spot -- as David Griffin said after the draft, if they didn't feel a player could meaningfully contribute this season, they weren't terribly interested in wasting a roster spot on him. It doesn't seem anyone seriously felt he would make the 15 man roster coming out of training camp.

So hearing that he is likely to end up with Canton makes as much sense as anything, I guess. In any event, as I said in another thread, I believe there is an upcoming deadline when teams need to tender a contract to their second round picks (and first round picks for that matter), or else they lose the rights to the player. It happens sometime in early September, I believe. The Cavs were coming close to running up against it last year with Dwight Powell, who they eventually did sign to a contract with very minimal guaranteed money.
 
kovanovich said:
Isn't it likely the case that the Cavs simply talked to Pointer before the draft and asked him, if they were to draft him in the second round at #53, whether he would be willing to sign in the D League with Canton, with the possibility that he could join the team later in the year or next year? They probably asked a number of players they were considering at #53. Most probably said that they would try to latch on with another team if the Cavs failed to tender an NBA contract. Or that they would go overseas.

It's a bit of a risk for a player to potentially eschew an overseas opportunity (assuming there would be an opportunity), but staying in the D League does offer a more likely path to the NBA.

Specifically in Pointer's case, he and/or his agent probably realized no other team was going to draft him, and his telling the Cavs that he would be willing to take a D League contract may well be the explanation for why the Cavs drafted him in the first place. But then again it would probably be more advantageous to the Cavs if Pointer were to sign overseas, since they would then retain his NBA rights.

I've frankly been puzzled by the pick, since they could have taken a draft and stash guy at 53, which would have turned into a trade chip which would have had at least some value. It never made much sense for the Cavs to think they could draft a guy at 53 who the Cavs could justify keeping on their 15 man roster given the apparent premium they were placing on each roster spot -- as David Griffin said after the draft, if they didn't feel a player could meaningfully contribute this season, they weren't terribly interested in wasting a roster spot on him. It doesn't seem anyone seriously felt he would make the 15 man roster coming out of training camp.

So hearing that he is likely to end up with Canton makes as much sense as anything, I guess. In any event, as I said in another thread, I believe there is an upcoming deadline when teams need to tender a contract to their second round picks (and first round picks for that matter), or else they lose the rights to the player. It happens sometime in early September, I believe. The Cavs were coming close to running up against it last year with Dwight Powell, who they eventually did sign to a contract with very minimal guaranteed money.
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They have to tender him a deal to keep his rights, but if he declines it then they still keep his rights. It sounds like they are effectively treating him like a draft and stash player, but he will just be the first, I believe, second rounder to be "stashed" in America.

You're probably right though that they went fishing with agents to see if their client would be amenable to such a deal, and Pointer was definitely doubtful to be drafted otherwise. Either way, if this deal real does happen then both sides had to have come to an agreement at some point about future compensation in some shape or form that made Pointer willing to give up guaranteed money this year.

It will be interesting though to see if he can develop at all and maybe replace RJ's spot next year.
 
D-Wreck said:
Probably working out with the Canton Charge
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I think it was reported that he will be joining Canton for the season, so that's probably the right answer.
 
Been awhile since his threads been active. 3 games in, his numbers are: 11.3 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 1.7 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.7 BPG, in 25.7 MPG. Shooting 46.4% from the floor, 0% from 3 (3 attempts), 57.1% from the FT line (poor, but he gets there 7.3 times a game).

 
Just looking at his shot chart, you could say his range is limited. I know it's only 3 games but hopefully he is spending all his free time shooting jumpers.

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Joe Harris is like the LeBron James of the D-League.
Averages 27 ppg and 9 rpg.
 
I don't ever expect Pointer to be an offensive force, so I'm glad that he's apparently recognized his limitations and isn't trying to force up outside shots at a lower level.

Play D, get boards, and slash to the basket.
 
https://youtu.be/Dq2ZoCgBOl8

He could possibly be a defensive force. 5 blocks with 3 blocks in a row.

He also seems to be relentless in attacking the basketball. Even with no jumper, he gets the defender off his feet with a pump fake and proceed to attack the basket.
 
Dleague tony allen

but with a better name
 
red. said:
https://youtu.be/Dq2ZoCgBOl8

He could possibly be a defensive force. 5 blocks with 3 blocks in a row.

He also seems to be relentless in attacking the basketball. Even with no jumper, he gets the defender off his feet with a pump fake and proceed to attack the basket.
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4 more tonight...guy just stuffs the defensive stat sheet...9 defensive boards, 2 steals, 4 blocks...Cavs need to lock him in the practice facility over the offseason and force him to do nothing but take jumper after jumper.
 
It really will be interesting to see if he ever actually plays for us at the NBA level. As we've seen with Cunningham, it's always good to have an extra young wing defender, especially with Shump's injury struggles.
 
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