80’s and 90’s WWF (or WCW) I guess

[JDailey23]

Demolition isn't in, or Midnight Express and a few others including the Rockers.

Ridiculous. Hopefully if HHH stays in charge, the tag team division will get the recognition it deserves. Then, Now and Future

 

[Sebastian]

Ridiculous. Hopefully if HHH stays in charge, the tag team division will get the recognition it deserves. Then, Now and Future

Agreed.

 

[Sebastian]

Jerry Briscoe and JBL have Rotunda on to talk the HoF, US Express and Barry Windham stealing Burt Reynolds' girlfriend.

 

[PIP]

Fascinated with the career of Rotunda. He was so involved and such a good wrestler that his career expanded over the decades.

If he was better on the mic he would have been a superstar. His kids have been fantastic too.

Lots of people don’t know that US Express came out to Hogan’s theme before it was Hogan’s theme.

 

[Sebastian]

Fascinated with the career of Rotunda. He was so involved and such a good wrestler that his career expanded over the decades.

If he was better on the mic he would have been a superstar. His kids have been fantastic too.

Lots of people don’t know that US Express came out to Hogan’s theme before it was Hogan’s theme.

You are correct!

If he had a little charisma he would have been bigger.

He could play a heel really well, but as a Face he was boring.

He and Barry now admit that it was a mistake to leave the WWF in 1986. They could have kept their theme.

 

[bigfoot5415]

Punk-McIntyre-Rollins was a fantastic segment. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the main event at Summerslam.

 

[Sebastian]

US Express inducted in the HoF.

It was nice to the "IRS" chants from the crowd.

Bitter-sweet for Mike and Barry.

Heartbreaking to hear Mike sobbing during Bray's music.

 

[Jscc]

I discovered WWE has all of WCW's shows on peacock and have been watching the 90s/early 00s stuff with the nWo for the past month. I used to watch it as a kid. So I was thrilled to see how it would hold up now.

Not as well, but still there were so many great things.

Giant, Outsiders, nWo, WolfPac, Millionaire's Club/New Blood, Hogan's Hollywood transformation, DDP's transformation into a headliner [at his age], Goldberg, Sting's Crow look transformation, Scott Steiner's Big Poppa Pump transformation, Macho Man's semi-Hollywood transformation into a heel, Booker T into WCW champion, Jeff Jarrett into a main-eventer, Bret Hart's heel turn, Lex Luger re-inventing himself like Hogan and Macho Man, Sid Vicious, Ric Flair and the Four Horsemen, Bam Bam Bigalow [maybe the most mobile big man I've ever seen].

And of course, the cruiserweight division: Rey Mysterio, Billy Kidman, Juventud, Chavo, Eddie, Ultimo Dragon, Blitzkrieg.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Bam Bam Bigalow [maybe the most mobile big man I've ever seen].

Truth. Could have been bigger if his mic work was stronger.

 

[PIP]

Bam Bam & Vader

 

[Sebastian]

Truth. Could have been bigger if his mic work was stronger.

I read that Vince was planning on giving Bam Bam a big push in later 1994.

Bam Bam was with the Million Dollar Corporation at the time.

The plan was to pair him and IRS and put the tag-team titles on them, and then give Bam Bam a face turn for the usual MDM/IRS reasons by the next summer.

It was set-up for Bam Bam/IRS to win the belts at SummerSlam 1994.

But, as was the case often in the New Generation era, The Kliq politicked against Bam Bam and Shawn Michaels demands to win the Tag-Titles because he never got a chance with the Rockers.

So Shawn and Diesel win the tag-titles from the Headshrinkers two days before SummerSlam and and Bam Bam and IRS get the non-title match against the Headshrinkers which they won by DQ after a changed finish.

Shawn and Diesel later vacate the titles after doing nothing with them in November 1994.

Bam Bam still turns Face in summer 1995, but asked for, and received, his release, in Fall 1995 citing The Kliq as the reason why he left. He isn't the only guy to be fucked over by those assholes. Tatanka and IRS were both earmarked for short IC Title reigns in 1994, but various Kliq Members put the kybosh on them.

The evidence of this the broken plans are the weird Royal Rumble 1994 finish in the IRS/Razor Ramon match, where IRS won the title, only for the match to be restarted without IRS knowing and Razor wins.

Tatanka meanwhile goes from a big unbeaten streak and upper Midcard placement in early 1994, to weird booking, to include a feud with IRS where he, the Face is both humiliated by having his "sacred headdress" and Chief Jay Strongbow torn up by IRS. And then IRS wins the feud at the House Shows and blow-off. A rare Face feud loss. And then Tatanka slides down the Card, joins the Million Dollar Corp. only a month later in Fall 1994, doing tags with IRS on occasion, as if nothing happened. By late 1995 Tatanka quits.

Tatanka still talks about The Kliq and their knee-capping him and others, as the major reason why he left WWF in early 1996.