All-Time Ind- Guardians RCF Fantasy Draft, Pt. II

[Stark]

With my 7th round selection, the Wailing Wahoos select... SHANE BIEBER, STARTING PITCHER.

Bieber had a dazzling COVID-shortened 2020 season with Cleveland, where he won the Pitching Triple Crown, Cy Young, and was fourth in MVP voting.

Since he only made twelve starts that season and then 16 starts the next year, in fairness and to avoid a very small sample size, I'll combine his 2020 and 2021 seasons for the Bieber that joins my squad.

Over those 28 starts, Bieber went 15-5 with a 2.48 ERA, 2.60 FIP, 1.05 WHIP, 13.2 K/9, 256 K in 174 IP.

@JDailey23 is on the clock.

 

[JDailey23]

7th round Selection: Travis Fryman.

@Mott the Hoople is in the clock

 

[Mott the Hoople]

With the last pick in the 7th round I select the 1959 version of Tito Francona (the original). On my team he will alternate at 1B and OF with Joe Carter.

• In 1959 he batted .363 but missed out on the batting title due to minimum AB's.
• .980 OPS 5.2 WAR
• 5th in MVP voting

I'll be back with my 8th round snake pick in a little bit.

 

[bushwick_bill]

With the last pick in the 7th round I select the 1959 version of Tito Francona (the original). On my team he will alternate at 1B and OF with Joe Carter.

• In 1959 he batted .363 but missed out on the batting title due to minimum AB's.
• .980 OPS 5.2 WAR
• 5th in MVP voting

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I'll be back with my 8th round snake pick in a little bit.

I have that TIto card!!!!

 

[Mott the Hoople]

With the 1st pick in the 8th round I take SP Bert Blyleven (1984)

• 19-7 with 2.87 ERA for a 6th place team.
• 3rd in Cy Young voting
• Member of Baseball's Hall of Fame.

Here's my team so far:
SP: Addie Joss, Bob Lemon, Bert Blyleven (84) - All HOF'ers
OF: Joe Carter, Kenny Lofton, Rocky Colavito
!B: Tito Francona (59)
C: Sandy Alomar, Jr.

@JDailey23 is back up.

 

[Stark]

Blyleven is a very underrated pick. I think he made it through our entire draft the first time around and @Derek snagged him from the remaining guys for his squad.

 

[JDailey23]

With the 8th round pick. JDailey23 will select Closer Doug Jones.

@Stark

 

[Derek]

Blyleven is a very underrated pick. I think he made it through our entire draft the first time around and @Derek snagged him from the remaining guys for his squad.

Here was my all-undrafted team (1980-2019)

SP
'84 Bert Blyleven, 7.2 bWAR
'82 Rick Sutcliffe, 5.7 bWAR
'00 Chuck Finley, 4.5 bWAR
'89 Bud Black, 4.0 bWAR
'82 Len Barker, 3.6 bWAR

RP
'19 Nick Wittgren, 1.0 bWAR
'14 Kyle Crockett, 1.1 bWAR
'11 Tony Sipp, 1.3 bWAR
'17 Tyler Olson, 1.3 bWAR
'17 Zach McAllister, 1.4 bWAR
'19 Tyler Clippard, 1.4 bWAR
'89 Jesse Orosco, 2.7 bWAR

STARTING LINEUP
1. '80 Jorge Orta, DH - .291/.379/.403 2.3 fWAR
2. '03 Milton Bradley, CF - .321/.421/.501 4.1 fWAR
3. '84 George Vukovich, RF - .304/.354/.439 3.9 fWAR
4. '04 Ben Broussard, 1B - .275/.370/.488 2.1 fWAR
5. '03 Jody Gerut, LF - .279/.336/.494 3.2 fWAR
6. '89 Jerry Browne, 2B - .299/.370/.390 3.8 fWAR
7. '01 Russell Branyan, 3B - .232/.316/.486 0.5 fWAR
8. '08 Kelly Shoppach, C - .261/.348/.517 3.0 fWAR
9. '86 Cory Snyder, SS - .272/.299/.500 1.1 fWAR

BENCH
'89 Felix Fermin, SS - 1.3 fWAR
Best defensive metrics by a SS not named Omar or Francisco. I will need him in late-game situations to replace Snyder.

'11 Jack Hannahan, 3B - 2.4 fWAR
Gret defensive 3B. He will be needed to replace Branyan late in games.

'16 Tyler Naquin, OF - 2.1 fWAR
Good pinch-hitting option, and capable defender.


NOTES
- Some guys had better seasons than the ones I used, but I wanted to stay true to the positions where I would be using them. For example, Branyan and Snyder both had better offensive seasons for the Indians, but they did not play 3B or SS in those seasons.

- I used bWAR for pitchers and fWAR for hitters because it is generally understood that those are the more accurate metrics for each. fWAR uses FIP which is more of a predictor of future performance than a measure of actual performance.

- This was tough with so many guys gone, and me hell-bent on not using anyone prior to 1980. I used quite a few one-season wonders.

 

[Stark]

I’ll pick when I get home from work. Absolutely swamped today.

 

[Stark]

It’s Miller Time. Give me Andrew Miller to anchor my bullpen again. Full write up later.

@BimboColesHair

 

[DCTribefan]

 

[BimboColesHair]

With my 8th pick I will take:

Ray Chapman, SS, 1917 version

The only player to have ever died due to injuries occurred during a major league game was on his way to a fringe Hall of Fame career when he tragically passed away. Highlighted by a 1917 season where he slashed .302/.370/.409 with 170 H, 98 R, 52 SB and a 131 OPS+ in a season worth 7.8 bWAR, boosted by Chapman's league best defensive metrics at SS.

Team so far:

Round 1: Nap Lajoie, 2B - 1910 version (.383/.444/.514 slash, 9.8 bWAR, 51 2B, 26 SB, 227 H)
Round 2: Shoeless Joe Jackson, OF - 1911 version (.408/.468/.590 slash, 9.2 bWAR, 45 2B, 41 SB, 233 H)
Round 3: Gaylord Perry, SP - 1972 version (342 IP, 24 W, 1.92 ERA, 10.8 bWAR, 7 CGSO, 0.978 WHIP)
Round 4: Grady Sizemore, OF - 2006 version (.290/.375/.533 slash, 6.7 bWAR, 53 2B, 11 3B, 28 HR, 22 SB, 134 R)
Round 5: Early Wynn, SP - 1956 version (277 IP, 20 W, 2.72 ERA, 7.8 bWAR, 18 CG, 154 ERA+)
Round 6: Mel Harder, SP - 1934 version (255 IP, 20 W, 2.61 ERA, 8.0 bWAR, 6 CGSO, 173 ERA+)
Round 7: Elmer Flick, OF - 1906 version (.311/.372/.441 slash, 6.5 bWAR, 195 H. 98 R, 39 SB)
Round 8: Ray Chapman, SS - 1917 version (.302/.370/.409 slash, 7.8 bWAR, 170 H, 98 R, 52 SB)

 

[Stark]

@Lord Mar if you're alive.

@sportscoach is on the clock.

 

[sportscoach]

I am going to go with a sleeper @CATS44 maybe you may remember him....

with my 8th round pick...

SP Earl Moore with his 1903 stats... 20-8, 1.74 ERA, 2.38 FIP

in 247 innings, he did not give up a single HR... (different era, but still pretty legit)

Earl Moore – Society for American Baseball Research

sabr.org

Sounds like Moore had a bad foot injury in 05, that cost him time... He was a starter, that sounds like he had a motion like Sandlin currently does...

@CBBI you are up with back to back picks!

 

[CBBI]

I select Herb Score circa 1956 and Trevor Bauer circa 2018. Write ups coming soon.

1st pick: Tris Speaker CF, 1923 version - 9.1 WAR, 133 R, 218 H, 59 2B, 11 3B, 17 HR, 130 RBI, .380/.469/.610 slash, 182 OPS+
2nd pick: Jose Ramirez 3B, 2018 version - 7.5 WAR, 110 R, 156 H, 38 2B, 4 3B, 39 HR, 105 RBI, .270/.387/.552 slash, 151 OPS+
3rd pick: Roberto Alomar 2B, 1999 version - 7.4 WAR, 138 R, 182 H, 40 2B, 3 3B, 24 HR, 120 RBI, .323/.422/.533 slash, 140 OPS+
4th pick: Sam McDowell SP, 1965 version - 8.2 WAR, 17-11 record, 2.18 ERA, 273 IP, 325 K, 161 ERA+, 2.08 FIP
5th pick: Joe Sewell SS, 1923 version - 8.1 WAR, 98 R, 195 H, 41 2B, 10 3B, 3 HR, 109 RBI, .353/.456/.479 slash, 146 OPS+
6th pick: Herb Score SP, 1956 version - 7.3 WAR, 20-9 record, 2.53 ERA, 249.1 IP, 263 K, 166 ERA+, 2.78 FIP
7th pick: Trevor Bauer SP, 2018 version - 6.0 WAR, 12-6 record, 2.21 ERA, 175.1 IP, 221 K, 196 ERA+, 2.44 FIP

@sportscoach is back on the clock.

With my 8th and 9th picks, I choose...

Shin Soo Choo RF, 2010 version - 5.9 WAR, 81 R, 165 H, 31 2B, 2 3B, 22 HR, 90 RBI, .300/.401/.484 slash, 147 OPS+
Ed Morgan 1B, 1930 version - 5.7 WAR, 122 R, 204 H, 47 2B, 11 3B, 27 HR, 136 RBI, .349/.413/.601 slash, 150 OPS+

@sportscoach is back up.