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@Stark it would be cool if the drafters talked about their teams overall. I will try to do mine later since I actually have time to for one lol
 

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I'm working on finishing the google drive file and writing up my team review. I'll also send my vote over to Derek so we can keep it anonymous when I get a chance.

SP
'84 Bert Blyleven, 7.2 bWAR
'82 Rick Sutcliffe, 5.7 bWAR
'00 Chuck Finley, 4.5 bWAR
'89 Bud Black, 4.0 bWAR
'82 Len Barker, 3.6 bWAR

RP
'19 Nick Wittgren, 1.0 bWAR
'14 Kyle Crockett, 1.1 bWAR
'11 Tony Sipp, 1.3 bWAR
'17 Tyler Olson, 1.3 bWAR
'17 Zach McAllister, 1.4 bWAR
'19 Tyler Clippard, 1.4 bWAR
'89 Jesse Orosco, 2.7 bWAR

STARTING LINEUP
1. '80 Miguel Dilone, DH - .341/.371/.432 2.9 fWAR
2. '03 Milton Bradley, CF - .321/.421/.501 4.1 fWAR
3. '84 George Vukovich, RF - .304/.354/.439 3.9 fWAR
4. '04 Ben Broussard, 1B - .275/.370/.488 2.1 fWAR
5. '03 Jody Gerut, LF - .279/.336/.494 3.2 fWAR
6. '89 Jerry Browne, 2B - .299/.370/.390 3.8 fWAR
7. '01 Russell Branyan, 3B - .232/.316/.486 0.5 fWAR
8. '08 Kelly Shoppach, C - .261/.348/.517 3.0 fWAR
9. '86 Cory Snyder, SS - .272/.299/.500 1.1 fWAR

BENCH
'89 Felix Fermin, SS - 1.3 fWAR
Best defensive metrics by a SS not named Omar or Francisco. I will need him in late-game situations to replace Snyder.

'11 Jack Hannahan, 3B - 2.4 fWAR
Gret defensive 3B. He will be needed to replace Branyan late in games.

'16 Tyler Naquin, OF - 2.1 fWAR
Good pinch-hitting option, and capable defender.


NOTES
- Some guys had better seasons than the ones I used, but I wanted to stay true to the positions where I would be using them. For example, Branyan and Snyder both had better offensive seasons for the Indians, but they did not play 3B or SS in those seasons.

- I used bWAR for pitchers and fWAR for hitters because it is generally understood that those are the more accurate metrics for each. fWAR uses FIP which is more of a predictor of future performance than a measure of actual performance.

- This was tough with so many guys gone, and me hell-bent on not using anyone prior to 1980. I used quite a few one-season wonders.
Love it, but I drafted Dilone in the 21st round. Saw that speed potential off the bench and had to pounce on it.
 

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I'm working on finishing the google drive file and writing up my team review. I'll also send my vote over to Derek so we can keep it anonymous when I get a chance.



Love it, but I drafted Dilone in the 21st round. Saw that speed potential off the bench and had to pounce on it.
What are you talking about? I have Jorge Orta in my lead-off spot.

:chuckle:
 

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Also, I've been kind of working on porting all of our rosters over into MLB The Show 19.

This is kind of taking a while since I have to make pretty much all of the non-current players by hand and use a bunch of different metrics to adjust their contact, power, plate discipline, plate vision, bunting, speed, fielding, etc. ratings into a fair and non-biased number (so I can't juice my team up compared to you guys).

The position players aren't bad but it's pretty hard doing the pitchers, and I'm working a fair amount right now. I'll keep you guys updated if you want. I'm starting on JDailey's team today, and I'll run them through a season and we can see how they do.
 

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If my team has a better record than any of your's, you should be banned for a week
 

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Here's what I had time for today for Dailey's team. Max overall is 99. Since Dailey didn't give specific years, I went through and picked what I thought their best year was and based this build off of that.

SP - '46 Bob Feller, 99 ovr
SP - '07 CC Sabathia, 99 ovr
SP - '92 Charles Nagy, 91 ovr

RP - '17 Nick Goody, 83 ovr
CP - '86 Doug Jones, 88 ovr

CF - '94 Kenny Lofton, 98 ovr
LF - '86 Joe Carter, 90 ovr
1B - '06 Travis Hafner, 93 ovr
C - '97 Sandy Alomar Jr., 93 ovr
3B - '87 Brook Jacoby, 86 ovr

A few notes on this so far:
- Just because Feller and Sabathia are both 99's, it doesn't mean that they are equal players in the realm of this game. There are two types of 99s in this game that roster builders like myself use - true 99s and cusp 99s. Feller is a true 99 who is only a 99 because that is as high as the game lets him go for an overall rating. If there was no rating cap, Feller would be around a 105-106 ovr based on my calculations. Sabathia is a one or two rating bump down in HR/9 from being a 98, so even though they are both 99s, it's not particularly close in their talent level in game. Feller will blow Sabathia away.
- Doug Jones is only an 88, but he'll likely play like a 93-94. Soft throwers like him get underrated by the game.
- Joe Carter and Brook Jacoby are hindered in their overall by subpar defensive stats. Both bats will play very nice. Hafner would also likely be pushing around a 97 range if his defense/speed wasn't terrible - his bat from 2006 will be one of the best in this entire project.

Any question, let me know.
 

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@Stark I am curious how you will do a guy like Turner who had a season of 9.4 WAR and the rest of the time he never got like above 3 in a season lol
 

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@Stark I am curious how you will do a guy like Turner who had a season of 9.4 WAR and the rest of the time he never got like above 3 in a season lol
I'm using everybody's splits from their best overall season.

MLB The Show 19 measures batters by the following:
CON/L
CON/R
PWR/L
PWR/R
BUNT
DRG BUNT
DISCIPLINE
VISION
CLUTCH
FIELDING
ARM STR
ARM ACC
REAC
SPEED
STEALING
RUNN AGGRESSIVENESS

  • Contact ratings are calculated using a combination of BA and BABIP.
  • Power ratings look at flat home run total, isolated power, and AB/HR.
  • Bunting and drag bunting are pretty self-explanatory. The computer (since I"m going to be simulating all this) rarely bunts, so this isn't very important. Guys like Hafner get a low bunt, guys like Lofton will get a high bunt. I use SH to determine it for this, even though that's not a perfect way to do it.
  • Discipline is BB%.
  • Vision is K%.
  • Clutch goes by BA/RISP, but doesn't really have a direct usage in-game. It's just kind of there and barely effects overall.
  • Fielding is kind of hard and uses a lot of metrics - UZR, Zone, FLD%, etc. A lot goes into it.
  • Arm strength and arm accuracy are kind of by the eye test (and outfielder assists factors in a lot). I know SDS uses the ARM metric on Fangraphs a lot to help out with this one.
  • Reaction is another tricky one, it usually is pretty close to fielding.
  • Speed for current players goes by home plate to 1B time over your best 67% of sprints. Harder to do for older players since that metric doesn't exist, but I'll be able to get close enough where it's not killing anything. Kenny Lofton has 98 speed for reference.
  • Stealing goes by SB% and attempts, so a guy that is 1-1 on stolen bases in a season still won't have a high rating despite being perfect.
  • Base running aggressiveness determines how risky a guy on the basepaths and how often they steal. Pretty sure Lofton is floating around the 95-99 range here, don't remember off the top of my head. This stat does not effect overall at all.
Looking at a guy like Terry Turner is tricky since I have so few metrics to go by. I can't even get vs. RHP/vs. LHP splits for that 9+ WAR season. My best guess is I'll end up doing something like this for him:

CON/L - 83
CON/R - 67
PWR/L - 31
PWR/R - 22
BUNT - 75
DRG BUNT - 45
DISCIPLINE - 47
VISION - 88
CLUTCH - 72
FIELDING - 89
ARM STR - 82
ARM ACC - 85
REACTION - 82
SPEED - 74
STEALING - 68
BR AGR - 59

Not perfect, but any guy pre-1920 is really hard to project out into this game. Those numbers would have Turner around an 83-86 overall if I had to guess. Half of his WAR from that year was from fielding, so at the very least, I'll make sure he's got good fielding stats.
 

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Had some alone time today so I ran some numbers on my starting nine, which is -

Flick (1905) RF
Sewell (1923) SS
Jackson (1911) CF
Rosen (1953) 3B
Gordon (1948) 2B
Morgan (1930) 1B
Heath (1941) LF
Romano (1961) C
Wagner (1965) DH

Aggregate numbers are: .331/.407/.538/.945 with averages of 183 hits, 21 HRs, 32 doubles, 10 triples, 69 walks, and 15 stolen bases. Should be a little better if I platoon Wagner and Luplow at DH. Assuming fWAR is better for position players, the average for my nine is 6.3.

I'll get the reserves and full squad batting numbers in a bit. Pitching numbers thereafter (even if no one's interested!).
 

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Okay my four bench guys - Toby Harrah (1982), Duke Sims (1970), Brett Butler (1985), and Jordan Luplow (2019) put up an aggregate .295/.380/.480/.860 slash with averages of 21 doubles, 5 triples, 17 home runs, 17 stolen bases and 3.5 fWAR.

That gives my full 13 man position squad - .321/.399/.523/.922 with an average of 29 doubles, 8 triples, 20 home runs, 16 stolen bases and 5.4 fWAR.
 

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While resting after moving leaves I ran the pitching staff numbers.

Starters are - Stan Coveleski (20), Bob Lemon (48), Luis Tiant (68), Early Wynn (56), and his teammate Herb Score (56). Fun fact, Wynn and Score were 1-2 in pitcher WAR in 1956.

My staff averages are: 21-11, 2.45 ERA, 1.111 WHIP, 3.1 BB/9, 6.2 K/9, 0.5 HR/9 and 7.4 bWAR. They averaged 35 starts with 20 complete games and 6 shutouts.

My bullpen is - Michael Jackson (98), Sid Monge (79), Jim Kern (76), Dave LaRoche (76), Chris Perez (10), Johnny Allen (37), and Derek Lilliquist (92).

They averaged 7-4, 2.22 ERA, 1.139 WHIP, 18 saves, 3.6 BB/9, 7.3 K/9, 0.4 HR/9 and 3.9 bWAR.

Overall staff ERA = 2.37. WHIP = 1.120. Average bWAR = 5.3.
 
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