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Sure, these teams could beat the Tigers and Royals.

But once they get to the post-season, you just don't have the bullpen to compete with the Yankees and Astros.
 

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Your teams are all trash. Bob Lemon is overrated.
If we are so bad, why aren’t you drafting then? This is for fun and nothing else. Also look at the stats of these guys who were very good in their eras and that’s all that matters
 

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If we are so bad, why aren’t you drafting then? This is for fun and nothing else. Also look at the stats of these guys who were very good in their eras and that’s all that matters
Friendly smack talk.

He already mentioned his draft would be '88-today. He can sign a bunch of roided FA's from Herbert Perry to Jhonny Peralta. Once they serve their first 50 game suspension, their slugging will go way down.

BTW . . . Is this league allowed to use PED's and can the old pitchers doctor the ball? This would make a great relaunch of the MLB SlugFest video game.
 

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With the 11th overall pick, the Wailing Wahoos select: Albert Belle, Outfielder

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Career w/ Cleveland: 1989-1996
Career Stats w/ Cleveland: .295 BA, .949 OPS, 242 HR, 223 2B, 751 RBI, 62 SB, 150 OPS+, 27.4 WAR

Albert Belle is one of the all-time great sluggers in Cleveland history.

For me, he had two God-like offensive seasons with the Indians, and it's kind of hard for me to pick between the two so I'll talk about them both a bit.

In the strike shortened year of 1994, Belle was hitting .357/.438/.714/1.152 with 36 HR, 35 2B, 101 RBI, 194 OPS+, and a 5.7 WAR over 106 games before the season was called. Nobody knows what his numbers would have looked like if he was able to finish the season, but good lord, he was an absolute madman over those 106 games. He finished 3rd in MVP voting that season behind Frank Thomas (who was also destroying the American League) and Ken Griffey Jr.

The next season in 1995, Belle had the iconic season that most baseball fans remember him for. His infamous 50/50 season saw him hit .317/.401/.690/1.091 with 50 HR, 52 2B, 121 R, 126 RBI, 177 OPS+, and a 7.0 WAR. Somehow, Belle didn't win MVP this year due to reporter bias, so he finished 2nd to the infinitely inferior Mo Vaughn. Belle was top-3 in MVP voting in 1994, 1995, and 1996, and also finished top-10 in 1993 and 1998 (that season was with Chicago). For my money, one of the biggest MVP highway robberies in MLB history.

Where did Belle struggle? Metrics for the day suggest that he wasn't a great fielder, as even at his peak, he had multiple seasons with a negative dWAR, even though he did have an above average arm. He wasn't the fastest runner ever either, but still stole 23 bases in 1993 and went 11-11 in steals in 1996. Still, when you can hit like this guy did, you look past these other flaws to his game so that he can bat cleanup for you.

@JDailey23 is on the clock for back to back picks
 

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With the 14th overall pick, the Wailing Wahoos select: Jose Ramirez, 3B

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Career w/ Cleveland: 2013-present
Career Stats w/ Cleveland: .280 BA, .834 OPS, 107 HR, 197 2B, 383 RBI, 107 SB, 25.0 WAR

This pick might seem a bit early to some people, but Ramirez has actually already put up some of the better offensive season in the past 30 years for Cleveland. Think about how impactful and dominate Albert Belle was over his eight seasons with Cleveland. Jose Ramirez is only 2.4 WAR behind him, and has just finished his seventh season. Ramirez is very, very good.

From 2013-2015, Ramirez was mostly seen as a speedy utility infielder, so that was the role he played in Cleveland, backing up guys like Francisco Lindor, Jason Kipnis, and Lonnie Chisenhall on the Indian infield. He actually led the league in sacrifice hits (13) in 2014 despite only having 266 PAs.

He really came into his own as a legitimate all-star in 2016, his first year as a starter, and had his best two seasons to date in 2017 and 2018, before struggling early on in 2019 and then having a hand injury end his season right when he was starting to rebound.

I'm going to choose Ramirez's 2018 season as his best. His batting average and other metrics kind of scuffled a bit due to an awful August and September, but in the first half of the season, he looked like the MVP frontrunner.

In 2018, Ramirez hit .270/.387/.552/.939 with 39 HR, 38 2B, 34 SB, 105 RBI, 110 R, 151 OPS+ and a 7.9 WAR. You can argue that his 2017 season was a bit better from a pure hitting standpoint, as he hit .318 with a .957 OPS along with 56 doubles, but he sizzled in other categories compared to 2018, and had a full 1.0 bit of WAR lower. Either season is great however, and Ramirez finished 3rd in MVP voting both years.

First three picks: Corey Kluber, Albert Belle, Jose Ramirez - I'm liking where my team is going so far.

@sportscoach is on the clock, @daddywags is on deck, @PIP is in the hole
 

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With the 14th overall pick, the Wailing Wahoos select: Jose Ramirez, 3B


Career w/ Cleveland: 2013-present
Career Stats w/ Cleveland: .280 BA, .834 OPS, 107 HR, 197 2B, 383 RBI, 107 SB, 25.0 WAR

This pick might seem a bit early to some people, but Ramirez has actually already put up some of the better offensive season in the past 30 years for Cleveland. Think about how impactful and dominate Albert Belle was over his eight seasons with Cleveland. Jose Ramirez is only 2.4 WAR behind him, and has just finished his seventh season. Ramirez is very, very good.

From 2013-2015, Ramirez was mostly seen as a speedy utility infielder, so that was the role he played in Cleveland, backing up guys like Francisco Lindor, Jason Kipnis, and Lonnie Chisenhall on the Indian infield. He actually led the league in sacrifice hits (13) in 2014 despite only having 266 PAs.

He really came into his own as a legitimate all-star in 2016, his first year as a starter, and had his best two seasons to date in 2017 and 2018, before struggling early on in 2019 and then having a hand injury end his season right when he was starting to rebound.

I'm going to choose Ramirez's 2018 season as his best. His batting average and other metrics kind of scuffled a bit due to an awful August and September, but in the first half of the season, he looked like the MVP frontrunner.

In 2018, Ramirez hit .270/.387/.552/.939 with 39 HR, 38 2B, 34 SB, 105 RBI, 110 R, 151 OPS+ and a 7.9 WAR. You can argue that his 2017 season was a bit better from a pure hitting standpoint, as he hit .318 with a .957 OPS along with 56 doubles, but he sizzled in other categories compared to 2018, and had a full 1.0 bit of WAR lower. Either season is great however, and Ramirez finished 3rd in MVP voting both years.

First three picks: Corey Kluber, Albert Belle, Jose Ramirez - I'm liking where my team is going so far.

@sportscoach is on the clock, @daddywags is on deck, @PIP is in the hole
I had Belle lined up with my pick. Was going to take my 2 all time favs back to back.
Belle and Lofton.
 

Stark

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I had Belle lined up with my pick. Was going to take my 2 all time favs back to back.
Belle and Lofton.
I think getting Sandy was a smart move though. Not a ton of great catchers throughout Cleveland lore, and you got the best one.
 

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2007 Victor Martinez is the best catcher we've ever had
 
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Jose Ramirez is a bold pick....
 

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Jose Ramirez is a bold pick....
If you’re picking single seasons as Stark suggested, Jose’s ‘18 campaign was one of the most productive campaigns in Indians history. More so than Lindor even.
 

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With the 14th overall pick, the Wailing Wahoos select: Jose Ramirez, 3B


Career w/ Cleveland: 2013-present
Career Stats w/ Cleveland: .280 BA, .834 OPS, 107 HR, 197 2B, 383 RBI, 107 SB, 25.0 WAR

This pick might seem a bit early to some people, but Ramirez has actually already put up some of the better offensive season in the past 30 years for Cleveland. Think about how impactful and dominate Albert Belle was over his eight seasons with Cleveland. Jose Ramirez is only 2.4 WAR behind him, and has just finished his seventh season. Ramirez is very, very good.

From 2013-2015, Ramirez was mostly seen as a speedy utility infielder, so that was the role he played in Cleveland, backing up guys like Francisco Lindor, Jason Kipnis, and Lonnie Chisenhall on the Indian infield. He actually led the league in sacrifice hits (13) in 2014 despite only having 266 PAs.

He really came into his own as a legitimate all-star in 2016, his first year as a starter, and had his best two seasons to date in 2017 and 2018, before struggling early on in 2019 and then having a hand injury end his season right when he was starting to rebound.

I'm going to choose Ramirez's 2018 season as his best. His batting average and other metrics kind of scuffled a bit due to an awful August and September, but in the first half of the season, he looked like the MVP frontrunner.

In 2018, Ramirez hit .270/.387/.552/.939 with 39 HR, 38 2B, 34 SB, 105 RBI, 110 R, 151 OPS+ and a 7.9 WAR. You can argue that his 2017 season was a bit better from a pure hitting standpoint, as he hit .318 with a .957 OPS along with 56 doubles, but he sizzled in other categories compared to 2018, and had a full 1.0 bit of WAR lower. Either season is great however, and Ramirez finished 3rd in MVP voting both years.

First three picks: Corey Kluber, Albert Belle, Jose Ramirez - I'm liking where my team is going so far.

@sportscoach is on the clock, @daddywags is on deck, @PIP is in the hole
great pick but perhaps only the second best 3b in Tribe history
 

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