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I think they will have to reassess their cities next year. Atlanta doesn't seem to care either.

They seem to want to be in warm weather or a dome. I feel like Columbus, Louisville, etc without alot of major pro sports would embrace it.
Well the XFL is occurring....

I'll throw out my new city of Tulsa/OKC for it.

Small market but you could probably get people to check it out if you loaded up the roster with people from Nebraska, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Tulsa, Arkansas and OU. Considering the fact I was mainly watching more Browns games than normal thanks to some certain former Sooner player? there's a market for it I think.

The venue would be the only problem.
-Only venue in OKC proper would probably be Bricktown (only seats 9K) or Taft (seats 13k)
-Norman is 25 minutes away but I'm unsure of the viability there. 84k capacity would look awfully empty if say, only 20k show up.
-Stillwater is out in the middle of nowhere.
-Skelly Stadium but Tulsa is the smaller fish compared to OKC.

Weather also isn't...awful when the AAF would be playing. Gets in the 30's-50's around this time.
 

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Looks like its done already

Source: AAF suspends operations in 1st season

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/26423928/source-aaf-suspends-operations-1st-season
I think it needed more time.

The other problem was where they put the teams.

I think Orlando, San Antonio, Arizona and Birmingham all were rather promising markets. They felt like they were gaining traction.

San Diego, Salt Lake City, Memphis and Atlanta felt like they didn't care.

The TV ratings were actually GOOD which shows that there's a demand for the product in terms of that area.

I think the lack of a kickoff was also a mistake. It feels rather odd to not include that considering that very much is a part of the feel of the game.

I still see promise in the concept. I really do. Problem seems to be lack of a financial backing and putting teams in markets that don't want to go to games.
 

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Wow was Kaepernik right to avoid this.
 

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Wow was Kaepernik right to avoid this.
I think the entire thing was league owned which is a bit of a problem.

Vince McMahon is worth 3.2 billion. He has a globally recognized brand, and the ability to (NOW) guarantee television coverage even if every channel on the planet told him "Sorry. Not interested". I think he is the only person where that model works.

You need owners and people willing to throw money at the thing. How the AAFC, AFL, and to a certain extent USFL succeeded were due to that reason. In the case specifically of the AFL and USFL? You had owners who wanted to own pro football franchises and/or were pissed that the NFL wouldn't let them into their big club.

We should have been hearing about random lawyers, businessmen, former players/coaches, and even celebrities with ownership stakes in various franchises.
 

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I wonder what they were relying on in terms of revenue that they miscalculated to keep it going. They must over estimated attendance by a wide margin. You would think the tv deal was negotiating before it even aired and that was a fix income.

NFL Network and CBS sports networks especially are pretty forgettable networks when scrolling thru to see what's on. If they try to continue the league in the future they need to secure network tv contracts even if it's in less than prime viewing times.
 

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Non-political comment but:

If there was ever a chance for Trump to own a team again, thus bringing in the exposure it needed to succeed, this would have been it. It would have had a built-in audience for that reason with a lot of people wishing to stick it to the NFL.

The financials must have been dire for so many with extra cash to stay way.
 

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The financials must have been dire for so many with extra cash to stay way.
I actually think the AAF was never set up to be a competitor to the NFL. They stated and set it up to be the minor leagues for the NFL. They were even asking the NFL to loan them practice league players at one point.

As an investment and end goal, I don't think they wanted it to be a stand alone business. My guess is they wanted the NFL to buy them out at some point. That might be why people were scared to invest in them since they didn't have a plan to grow and be a real league.

Some of the team owners might have just seen it as a backdoor way to getting a NFL team at some point. An established AAF team with a fan base and in a non-nfl city, would have had a leg up if the NFL ever wanted to expand to more than 32 teams.
 
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Some of the team owners might have just seen it as a backdoor way to getting a NFL team at some point. An established AAF team with a fan base and in a non-nfl city, would have had a leg up if the NFL ever wanted to expand to more than 32 teams.
There's the problem.

There were no team owners. They were all ran by the league and it's investors.

I would bet money had they HAD some owners for various franchises? We're not discussing this at the moment.
 

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