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So, when the trade was made, I think this season would have been around the time most of us thought Wiggins would be the better than Love by, and we were okay with that window.

Right now, it looks like he will never be a better player than Love has been in Cleveland. Trade was a freaking steal.
 
So, when the trade was made, I think this season would have been around the time most of us thought Wiggins would be the better than Love by, and we were okay with that window.

Right now, it looks like he will never be a better player than Love has been in Cleveland. Trade was a freaking steal.

Yep. With Love, We got a title. A full max extension. Soon to be 2 all-star berths. I could even argue Love deserves some type of all-NBA consideration this year especially if he keeps playing like this.

Wiggins is a long ways away from ever being even close to Kevin Loves level.

Despite being not a huge fan of trading the Brooklyn pick, I think this deal may be a relevant case study for us to remember. If the right guy becomes available...we should probably trade the pick. Even though circumstances are different. The main point stands.
 
Yep. With Love, We got a title. A full max extension. Soon to be 2 all-star berths. I could even argue Love deserves some type of all-NBA consideration this year especially if he keeps playing like this.

Wiggins is a long ways away from ever being even close to Kevin Loves level.

Despite being not a huge fan of trading the Brooklyn pick, I think this deal may be a relevant case study for us to remember. If the right guy becomes available...we should probably trade the pick. Even though circumstances are different. The main point stands.
I think you're better off waiting until that player signs a deal so that his deal can contribute to the trade and not have to make up for the salary.
 
Both @Rich and I suggested the wolves should have traded Wiggins a long time ago while he still had that "potential" tag on him. His value is at a career low. The time to trade him has passed. Butler Towns and whatever they could have received from a Wiggins trade would have positioned them much nicer than they are now. Wiggins is a giant anchor for them with how much cap space he is taking up and how underwhelming his production is.
 
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Both @Rich and I suggested the wolves should trade Wiggins a long time ago while he still had that "potential" tag on him. His value is at a career low. The time to trade him has passed. Butler Towns and whatever they could have received from a Wiggins trade would have positioned them much nicer than they are now. Wiggins is a giant anchor for them with how much cap space he is taking up and how underwhelming his production is.

I think the problem with the idea that Minnesota should have traded him, however, is that as soon as the Minnesota had begun to seek suitors, everyone would have immediately begun asking, "why?"

They didn't have to part with him to get Butler, but other than there, I'm not sure a deal ever presented itself for them to rid themselves of Wiggins without showing the desire to do so.
 
Both @Rich and I suggested the wolves should have traded Wiggins a long time ago while he still had that "potential" tag on him. His value is at a career low. The time to trade him has passed. Butler Towns and whatever they could have received from a Wiggins trade would have positioned them much nicer than they are now. Wiggins is a giant anchor for them with how much cap space he is taking up and how underwhelming his production is.
I was in on this too! Don't leave me out!
 
http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/21831824/zach-lowe-10-things-like-including-all-star-draft-nba

9. Bricky Andrew Wiggins
So, this is becoming a problem. Wiggins is down to 29.4 percent from deep, and he has shot just 19-of-74 -- 26 percent -- over his last 17 games. There is almost compound damage, because Wiggins is heaving more 3s even as his total shot attempts have predictably dropped off with the addition of Jimmy Butler -- in full Jimmy Buckets mode after a tepid start.

Wiggins has finished only 23.7 percent of Minnesota's possessions with a shot, drawn foul, or turnover -- down from 29 percent last season. He gets only about 8.8 ball screens per game, half his average from a year ago, per Second Spectrum data. (That isn't a terrible thing; Wiggins is an inefficient pick-and-roll player. He's shooting just 38 percent after using a screen, per Synergy, a below-average figure for a high-volume guy, and he doesn't create enough good looks for teammates. He defaults to long pull-up 2s.)

Wiggins is more finisher than starter on the new Wolves. That was inevitable, and when the ball moves, Wiggins thrives as an explosive, mean-spirited cutter -- even within Minnesota's tight confines.

But he also spends a lot of time beyond the arc, waiting to either catch the ball, cut, or get back on defense. Wiggins chilling out there, hands on hips, is the physical manifestation of diminishing returns. You don't pay Andrew Wiggins $29 million a season for the next five years to stand around while defenses ignore him.

It's dangerous to overanalyze Minnesota's stylistic issues. They are 19-13, firmly in the West playoff picture, fifth in points per possession. After a 13-year playoff drought, that is enough for starved fans. But something feels off.

They have the point differential of a barely-over-.500 team, and they are winning ugly -- through brute force. They still can't guard anyone, and on offense, their players don't add up to more than the sum of their parts. Wiggins and Karl-Anthony Towns are still so young, it may not matter. They will get better at lots of things, and the roster around them will evolve. But this has been a slog.
 
With all the talk about him not wanting to be the third option, and his albatross of a contract (one of the worst in the league), the wolves may be stuck with him for awhile.
 
I still don't think anybody talks enough about how fucking trash Andrew Wiggins is.

15.8 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 2.3 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.7 BPG
39.2 FG%, 36.4 3PT%, 71.0 FT%, 11.55 PER
Awful team defender...

His contract:
18-19: $25.5 million
19-20: $27.5 million
20-21: $29.5 million
21-22: $31.6 million
22-23: $33.6 million

Dude has a lower PER than Rodney Hood, Marcus Smart, Deandre' Bembry, Miles Bridges, and Dorian Finney-Smith.

What a bust.
 
I still don't think anybody talks enough about how fucking trash Andrew Wiggins is.

15.8 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 2.3 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.7 BPG
39.2 FG%, 36.4 3PT%, 71.0 FT%, 11.55 PER
Awful team defender...

His contract:
18-19: $25.5 million
19-20: $27.5 million
20-21: $29.5 million
21-22: $31.6 million
22-23: $33.6 million

Dude has a lower PER than Rodney Hood, Marcus Smart, Deandre' Bembry, Miles Bridges, and Dorian Finney-Smith.

What a bust.
The Wolves just can't help themselves when it comes to stupid decisions
 
I still don't think anybody talks enough about how fucking trash Andrew Wiggins is.

15.8 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 2.3 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.7 BPG
39.2 FG%, 36.4 3PT%, 71.0 FT%, 11.55 PER
Awful team defender...

His contract:
18-19: $25.5 million
19-20: $27.5 million
20-21: $29.5 million
21-22: $31.6 million
22-23: $33.6 million

Dude has a lower PER than Rodney Hood, Marcus Smart, Deandre' Bembry, Miles Bridges, and Dorian Finney-Smith.

What a bust.
We dodged a bullet there.
 
Andrew Wiggins was put on this Earth to remind us all that the tank isn't always the answer. You can sabatage your whole season, win the lottery, and still end up with some jack off who has all the physical talent in the world and all the pedigree you would want... but doesn't play the game right.
 
I still don't think anybody talks enough about how fucking trash Andrew Wiggins is.

15.8 PPG, 3.8 RPG, 2.3 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.7 BPG
39.2 FG%, 36.4 3PT%, 71.0 FT%, 11.55 PER
Awful team defender...

His contract:
18-19: $25.5 million
19-20: $27.5 million
20-21: $29.5 million
21-22: $31.6 million
22-23: $33.6 million

Dude has a lower PER than Rodney Hood, Marcus Smart, Deandre' Bembry, Miles Bridges, and Dorian Finney-Smith.

What a bust.

Andrew Wiggins -- and actually Bennett too -- are perfect illustrations of why you can never assume a player's value is going to increase simply because he gets more playing time.
 
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