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DanielHSSports said:
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..the new ownership group is very much a collector of assets in the sporting world.. they know how to build a professional team and business environment to succeed.. in the LA/Basin market... they encapsulate the financing, vision and leadership of a major sports franchise ownership and all it brings...

they're going to become a nuisance to the rest of the American League if this guy, Kroenke, follows the same dogged / determined path to fame and fortune..

Way different than Arte Moreno and his diehard loyalty approach... fwiw... and one of the, perhaps, most interesting aspects of this soon to be (Jan/Mar 27?) transfer..

The Angels are not without talent..
 
I'm not trying to be a smart-ass but what do the Angels have on their roster? I know Reid Detmers had a great year.
 
DanielHSSports said:
I'm not trying to be a smart-ass but what do the Angels have on their roster? I know Reid Detmers had a great year.
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Not only are they largely bereft of talent, but the farm system sucks. 22 year old Walbert Urena, however, is the kind of starting pitcher every team covets.
 
DanielHSSports said:


I wonder if Tony Arnerich had a sense that the 2026 season would not turn out well for the Mariners, hence why he accepted a bench coaching gig in Cleveland
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Even if Tony Arnerich were the smartest guy alive, he couldn't anticipate the trapdoor the Mariners fell through this year. They were set up for success as well as any team in the American League. That the Rays, White Sox, and Tribe passed them by should have cost a lot of people jobs. But Jerry Dipoto survives!
 
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Why does he still have a job?
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He wasn't really the architect of this mess, although he made more more than his share of off-season missteps (letting Alonso go in favor of Jorge Polanco, signing Bo Bichette, trading Nimmo for Semien, going all in for Freddy Peralta...say, maybe you're right, he should be fired, ha-ha). Long record of success in Milwaukee will buy him some time. He has a golden halo like Scott Harris in Detroit so he'll get a lotta leash.
 


If I'm Antonetti and DiPoto is crazy enough to call me asking about trading for Vogt, I put him on speakerphone and have him repeat what he just said to the whole office, then howl with laughter and hang up.
 
WhoAzcue said:
Lest anyone be misled by this horribly phrased tweet, Josh Naylor didn't go back-to-back "30-30" in the sense everybody thinks...he didn't hit 30 homers and steal 30 bases two years in a row...in fact, he did something more profound.

He transformed himself into a base stealer and gave up power. In other words, he became a one-extra-base guy rather than a four-extra-base guy. And while he was brilliant at stealing 30 bags in 2025 (he was only caught 2 times, which is pretty extraordinary) and he hit 20 homers to go along with those steals, that home run total declined by 10 from the previous year. So he was really just a "20-30" guy. Is that better than the "31-6" guy he was in his last year in Cleveland? I'll let you decide.

But here's the real kicker: Seattle thought Josh was fantastic, and hurled $100 million at him, making him the key offseason move to ensure the team got back to the postseason. And sure enough, he rewarded Seattle's faith all right, pilfering another 30 bags. Ah, but teams were a bit ready for him this time, and he was thrown out 9 times, making his success rate more on the breakeven side in terms of value. Oh and did I mention he hit ten fewer homers? That's right, our speedster hit 10 homers on the season. While playing first base. Badly. He had a negative 0.2 WAR. He was a "10-30" hundred million dollar man. TEN-THIRTY, -0.2 WAR, 100 mil.

Steven Kwan was a "3-10" man. And a 5.3 WAR.

So why the laudatory tweet about Josh Naylor's "accomplishment" again? I guess fat men stealing bases is damn entertaining. It's a wonder John Kruk or Matt Stairs never tried it. No telling how many millions they would have made.
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It sounds like you were not a big fan of Josh even when he played in Cleveland.
 
DanielHSSports said:


If I'm Antonetti and DiPoto is crazy enough to call me asking about trading for Vogt, I put him on speakerphone and have him repeat what he just said to the whole office, then howl with laughter and hang up.
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Hedges as a player/coach, the first one we have seen in many years... Lol
 
DanielHSSports said:
It sounds like you were not a big fan of Josh even when he played in Cleveland.
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No, I liked Josh enough...after all, we were beggars rather than choosers when it came to our offensive options...but I never thought the team would extend him. Bad body, not enough consistency, questions about his slug as a 1B, weird clubhouse vibe and I just never saw a future with the team once free agent money loomed.

I thought the Mariners were nuts to pay him, though they certainly could afford him. I think they made a quick decision to keep him before they got "the full Josh Naylor experience." Teams often make poor free agent decisions when they are in the afterglow of a positive season like the Mariners had but fell just short (or when they've had a really lousy season and feel desperate to turn things around).
 
WhoAzcue said:
No, I liked Josh enough...after all, we were beggars rather than choosers when it came to our offensive options...but I never thought the team would extend him. Bad body, not enough consistency, questions about his slug as a 1B, weird clubhouse vibe and I just never saw a future with the team once free agent money loomed.

I thought the Mariners were nuts to pay him, though they certainly could afford him. I think they made a quick decision to keep him before they got "the full Josh Naylor experience." Teams often make poor free agent decisions when they are in the afterglow of a positive season like the Mariners had but fell just short (or when they've had a really lousy season and feel desperate to turn things around).
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It seemed clear that Josh was crazy to say the least. I always figured he was the type of guy who would run headfirst into a brick wall without wearing a helmet. Apparently he is a lot crazier than I thought, and I could see his schtick wearing old quickly in a clubhouse especially when the team is not winning.
 
DanielHSSports said:
It seemed clear that Josh was crazy to say the least. I always figured he was the type of guy who would run headfirst into a brick wall without wearing a helmet. Apparently he is a lot crazier than I thought, and I could see his schtick wearing old quickly in a clubhouse especially when the team is not winning.
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'zackly.

Lot of talk in Seattle the last week or so about the "need to change the culture" there. And that's coming from the front office!
 
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