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The Indians are 28th in attendence this year.

I blame it on the owner...but also during the Indians massave streak we didnt have the Browns and the Cavs didnt have Lebron.

But the biggest key, since Bush took over Cleveland has lost 280,000 jobs.

And that is the same district that pushed Ohios 17 points to Bush and basically got him to his second term.

pathetic..
 
mac you have got to be the biggest idiot on earth.

cliton left the economy in such rotten shape it has taken 4 years do get it back into shape.

to show how dumb you are look at the browns and cavs attendence. it has nothing to do with the president.

the browns had 100 percent sale and the cavs had the arena filled to 92%. :thumbdown
 
The Browns will have great attendence no matter what. They have the biggest fan following of any American team.

The Cavs have Lebron, and the NBA is the biggest bandwagon sport.

Add to that, there are only 8 games in a football season, less than 45 in a basketball season compared to 90 or so in a baseball season.

Figured as much from Bush's son cavincali.
 
I agree on a few different points here. Before I blame Bush for the economy (which he does deserve some blame since we're on a 4+ year downturn since he took office), I'd look more at the incompetant Bob Taft. His Third Frontier plan has stifled the Ohio economy (and to increase it he raises taxes on small businesses?!?!?!).

Without a doubt though, baseball attendance relies most heavily on the economy. As was pointed out, football has ten games to sell out (including two exhibition games). Cleveland, Green Bay, Buffalo, Kansas City, etc. will never have to worry about an open seat at football games.

To go to a baseball game, for me, takes around $55. Two $20 tickets for decent seats, $10 in gas, and $3-5 parking (I walk the distance to the Jake since I found a parking lot with two right turns on to I-77). With the economy down, people won't be able to do that nearly as often, let alone if you have a family of 4+.

The attendance at the Jake has been pathetic though. This town has a show-me attitude, which is fine (just don't claim that we have the best fans) and now that the team is showing something, attendance has gone up slightly, but not enough. Also, add in the fact that for the first two home stands the weather was HORRIBLE. I think attendance will improve, to roughly the 2 million mark on the season, but it has been disappointing to me.
 
Even tho this doesn't belong here... Democratics have always run the economics way better than the repulicans. Both the stock market and GDP have performed better under democratic administrations. Also its better when the demo's are the majorities for the house and senate.

But Democrats, it turns out, are much better for the stock market than Republicans. Slate ran the numbers and found that since 1900, Democratic presidents have produced a 12.3 percent annual total return on the S&P 500, but Republicans only an 8 percent return. In 2000, the Stock Trader's Almanac, which slices and dices Wall Street performance figures like baseball stats, came up with nearly the same numbers (13.4 percent versus 8.1 percent) by measuring Dow price appreciation. (Most of the 20th century's bear markets, incidentally, have been Republican bear markets: the Crash of '29, the early '70s oil shock, the '87 correction, and the current stall occurred under GOP presidents.)

read here

and here
 
A Mac aka The Truth said:
The Indians are 28th in attendence this year.

I blame it on the owner...but also during the Indians massave streak we didnt have the Browns and the Cavs didnt have Lebron.

But the biggest key, since Bush took over Cleveland has lost 280,000 jobs.

And that is the same district that pushed Ohios 17 points to Bush and basically got him to his second term.

pathetic..

Seriously, that is one funny post. It begins talking about our attendance ranking. Then it talks about the Tribe of the 90s. Then the Cleveland unemployed figure. Then the electoral college numbers. LOL

I see the correlation you are making - less jobs + less money = lower attendance. I don't really prescribe to that theory - field a winner, the fans will come, regardless of the economy. Even though we have been winning, the sell outs haven't occurred like the 90s - I think there is still a "wait and see" attitude with the fans. If we're in the race, they'll be sellin out in August.
 
here are the reasons i believe the attendence is down(some of them have already been mentioned).

...being third in the division, living in a city with the largest poverty rate, a declining economy, a ballpark that is no longer new, and a team on the field that fans haven't connected with (although they are starting to with pronk).

when we had the 455 sell-outs, things just happened to fall into place. it was like a right place, at the right time scenario. we had a brand new stadium right when the team started winning. that combination equaled people coming to ballgames. also, the economy was better, and we were usually in first place. we also had a ton of players that came up through our own system that became fan favorites.

any other year, we'd probably be in first, or close to it, with the record we have. the central used to be the weakest division in baseball. well, not anymore.

it looks like shaps picked the wrong year to say we will contend. especially without signing that big bat we needed. we are contending in a way, but we're still in 3rd place, and will probably be fighting for the wildcard.
 

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