Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

[PIP]

Odell did not publicly trash his teammates, coaching staff, FO, fans, media, or medical staff. Baker did. Odell was not an issue in the locker room and was well liked by his teammates and his coaches. Baker...........

I mean this past week you’re kinda seeing it…

OBJ is making plays and many of the former Browns are hyping him up on social media…

 

[Los216]

I think his team orchestrated the whole thing, yes. And it was effective - he got exactly what he wanted.

And what exactly has Baker been orchestrating since his last press conference after the PIT game? All he's done is refer matters to his agent, attack MKC and the media on Twitter, made himself unavailable to the media during the allotted times leading up to and after the finale against CIN, skipped out on exit interviews, and released a post surgery video update in which none of his teammates nor the team were mentioned at all.

Read that and tell me that doesn't sound like a guy who has his own agenda.

 

[Steve_424]

People are going to convince themselves of whatever they want, I can't really help that.

Agreed.

Odell did not publicly trash his teammates, coaching staff, FO, fans, media, or medical staff. Baker did. Odell was not an issue in the locker room and was well liked by his teammates and his coaches. Baker...........

Actions speak louder than words and only one of them was sent home by the team.

 

[BMAN]

Waaaait people are saying OBJ is back? Guy has averaged like 50 yards per game. I get it he’s scored some TDs. Let’s not act like OBJ is leading his team to the NFC title game lol. And yes, he’s a diva that stirs up controversy so let’s not try to be revisionists here. By the way Baker sucks too.

 

[The Oi]

I mean anytime you score TD’s in 6/8 games as a position player, you’re contributing to your team’s success.

How many receivers in the league did that this year?

 

[AZ_]

Agreed.



Actions speak louder than words and only one of them was sent home by the team.

And only one of them is sitting at home this post-season because of shitty quarterback play.


Not fair to expect people to care more about Instagram drama and pretending Baker has been practicing leadership because he can win the press conference.

OBJ didn't really do anything wrong, and fans are going to project their pundit-driven narratives about "diva" culture and tired tropes about leadership, doing their little dance because it gets clicks to be cliche.

 

[Los216]

I mean anytime you score TD’s in 6/8 games as a position player, you’re contributing to your team’s success.

How many receivers in the league did that this year?

Cooper Kupp
Ja'Marr Chase
Odell Beckham Jr.

 

[AZ_]

Cooper Kupp
Ja'Marr Chase
Odell Beckham Jr.

Playing this weekend.
Playing this weekend.
Playing this weekend.

 

[The Oi]

Cooper Kupp
Ja'Marr Chase
Odell Beckham Jr.

So there you go.

 

[BMAN]

Having that many on the amount of targets and yards he has is unsustainable. Regression to the mean. Please keep throwing it into our faces how elite and high character he is though.

This is a Baker Mayfield thread though. So I’ll leave it there since it’s off topic.

 

[Scrote Squad]

And only one of them is sitting at home this post-season because of shitty quarterback play.


Not fair to expect people to care more about Instagram drama and pretending Baker has been practicing leadership because he can win the press conference.

OBJ didn't really do anything wrong, and fans are going to project their pundit-driven narratives about "diva" culture and tired tropes about leadership, doing their little dance because it gets clicks to be cliche.

This.

Baker's inability to make reads and get him the ball in advantageous situations is why the marriage ended. If I had rehabbed for an entire year and went out on the field and didn't get the ball tossed in my direction, I would have been upset too. Just look at him on the Rams - he gets as open as ever, but now has a QB that sees that and delivers.

The whole social media discussion is nonsense. There is no more proof that OBJ was behind his dad's video and corny hashtag than there is that Baker was behind Emily's likes and shares on her Instagram page.

The difference between the two, and why I give OBJ a pass, is that OBJ kept his mouth shut, wasn't openly divisive, and still performed on the field.

You talk about Baker's incredible leadership - but to me, leadership is taking accountability when things don't go well. And Baker absolutely did not do that. He blamed the scheme, the game plan, the injury. If just once he had said, "Yeah, I missed several throws and double-clutched a bunch of others. This is totally on me." I may feel different. Baker has ZERO problem taking the credit when the team plays well. It's time for him to shoulder some of the blame when the team plays poorly. Pun intended.

 

[AZ_]

Having that many on the amount of targets and yards he has is unsustainable. Regression to the mean. Please keep throwing it into our faces how elite and high character he is though.

This is a Baker Mayfield thread though. So I’ll leave it there since it’s off topic.

That and having the best WR in football opposite him...

Either way, the Rams don't regret their decision and the Browns have a huge hole at WR and are sitting at home, so I truly have such little patience for the "rally around Baker" crowd endlessly needing to dump on everyone else for innocuous Instagram drama and hurt feelings.

It is getting rather tiring.


OBJ is still a weapon, the Browns can use them at WR...and QB.

 

[Real Deal]

Oh lord can we just say fuck obj? When times get tough, things don't go your way, adversity strikes, just quit and have your dad make a video bashing your teammate.

Then cherry pick the team/state you want to go work for. Life is so easy for some.

And let's not praise this guy like he's some obj of old now. He averaged 40 yards with Cle, averages 40 yards with LA. Rams just utilize him in the redzone as opposed to Stefanski using Chubb, Hunt, Njoku, Hooper, with the occasional Landry 2 yard rush.

He has Kupp getting the #1 CB, and doubled. He should have some sort of soft breakout. He's not getting doubled anymore or seeing #1 Corners.

Any way to leave your perspective at the door and bash Mayfield though, by all means, carry on.

 

[bob2the2nd]

That and having the best WR in football opposite him...

Either way, the Rams don't regret their decision and the Browns have a huge hole at WR and are sitting at home, so I truly have such little patience for the "rally around Baker" crowd endlessly needing to dump on everyone else for innocuous Instagram drama and hurt feelings.

It is getting rather tiring.


OBJ is still a weapon, the Browns can use them at WR...and QB.

As you said OBJ is a "weapon" because he isnt his teams number 1 WR. Instead he is playing either 2 or 3 and defenses are much much more focused on Kupp than they are OBJ. Its an absolutely great setup for OBJ and he picked a good team to go to. But going forward its irrelevant as OBJ wasnt sticking around the browns for next year anyway. .

That said I think its ridiculous that anyone on here thinks OBJ wasnt asking to be released/traded, especially after he refused to play the first 2 games. He may not have gone public with it, like his father, but lets not pretend the first the team knew OBJ wanted to be gone was the week they released him

 

[Scrote Squad]

As you said OBJ is a "weapon" because he isnt his teams number 1 WR. Instead he is playing either 2 or 3 and defenses are much much more focused on Kupp than they are OBJ. Its an absolutely great setup for OBJ and he picked a good team to go to. But going forward its irrelevant as OBJ wasnt sticking around the browns for next year anyway. .

That said I think its ridiculous that anyone on here thinks OBJ wasnt asking to be released/traded, especially after he refused to play the first 2 games. He may not have gone public with it, like his father, but lets not pretend the first the team knew OBJ wanted to be gone was the week they released him

Your ability to ignore Baker's shit play is impressive.

@CBBI and others have posted dozens of all-22 shots that show guys wide open, only to never even sniff a target on the play.

If, in your job, you continued to produce, but knew the company was going nowhere because the CEO was a doofus, what would you do? Sit back and continue to produce, or start looking for opportunities at other companies that had more promise?

People take sports so personally and latch on to certain people and personalities in a way I'll never understand.

OBJ wanted out of Cleveland because Baker couldn't get him the ball with any consistency. I don't blame him. He moved on and is now succeeding in a new city. No reason to ignore the facts and place blame on him. If he was the problem, the team would have gotten better after he left. Instead, they went 3-4 and put up 18.4 ppg which would have ranked them 26th in the NFL over a full season.