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Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

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Just no. It doesn’t have to be that one single play. It’s an example of just something so basic.

Someone can show Baker throwing a seed 40 yards down the field to lead to a TD…

I just think the staunch Baker supporter is more afraid to going back than anything else… Some 2020 games is all they have to believe in….

I rather continue looking for an upper echelon QB as opposed to paying this mediocre one going forward..

There’s nothing positive about having Baker Mayfield as your NFL quarterback…. If we have to keep on with this clown hopefully it’s for just 1 more season…. Sooner he is gone the quicker the Browns can start down a better path…
He broke the rookie record for TD passes in 2018.

He's absolutely been inconsistent and if it's going to work he's going to have to play well much more consistently than he has. But he's looked good in more than just a few games.
 
He broke the rookie record for TD passes in 2018.

He's absolutely been inconsistent and if it's going to work he's going to have to play well much more consistently than he has. But he's looked good in more than just a few games.
Baker is going into year 5, at 27 years of age, and he still hasn’t established himself as anything more than an inconsistent QB, who can occasionally flash. How you can continue to ride with a guy like that is beyond me? It’s certainly not something a smart franchise would do.
 
He broke the rookie record for TD passes in 2018.

He's absolutely been inconsistent and if it's going to work he's going to have to play well much more consistently than he has. But he's looked good in more than just a few games.

Oh… Well in that case forget everything else….Why didn’t someone bring this to the table sooner ?

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Baker is going into year 5, at 27 years of age, and he still hasn’t established himself as anything more than an inconsistent QB, who can occasionally flash. How you can continue to ride with a guy like that is beyond me? It’s certainly not something a smart franchise would do.

1) There are no realistic upgrades significant enough to make a move for.
2) There have been several cases of players showing flashes before finally breaking out in Year 4 or 5, with Drew Brees being the most famous example.

Oh… Well in that case forget everything else….Why didn’t someone bring this to the table sooner ?

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Sorry, I know it doesn't help the "he's only been good for a few games" narrative. :chuckle:
 
1) There are no realistic upgrades significant enough to make a move for.
2) There have been several cases of players showing flashes before finally breaking out in Year 4 or 5, with Drew Brees being the most famous example.



Sorry, I know it doesn't help the "he's only been good for a few games" narrative. :chuckle:
Sorry, but I don’t think it’s very hard to get a replacement that’s at least as good as Baker, and with the potential to be better, at a fraction of the cost.
 
Sorry, but I don’t think it’s very hard to get a replacement that’s at least as good as Baker, and with the potential to be better, at a fraction of the cost.
I mean they had a guy sitting on their bench all season that 1 year had over 20 TD’s only 7 int’s and got to the NFC title game.

I don’t see how people who champion Baker won’t champion that guy as well ? They’re basically the same guy at their best but one had a better playoff run and success…

Baker was the #1 pick and gave the fanbase hope… They’re absolutely petrified that it’s back to the drawing board so there’s this clinging to false hope…. Cause you really can’t make a solid case for Baker…

Nothing even suggests to me that he has the smarts to play the position at a high level consistently in the NFL…. Healthy shoulder or not that guy is not gonna win you a game…. Zero confidence in him making the right play..
 
Jimmy G was mostly pretty awful yesterday. However on that last drive he absolutely won the game by keeping the chains moving with a couple of pretty brave throws over the middle in treacherous conditions. Would I like to see him in Cleveland? No, as I don't think he's a significant enough upgrade over a healthy Mayfield.

I cannot understand why Aaron Rodgers doesn't get more ringing condemnation for his playoff performances, which have been largely a disgrace for season after season. He has a running game, a serviceable enough line, and a genuinely elite WR1. I think GB have missed having a healthy Valdez-Scantling to keep defenses honest on the other side of DA17, but if I were a Packers fan I genuinely wouldn't miss seeing Rodgers ever play there again. The result of last night's game was not a shock to anyone, even bearing in mind how limited by Injury JG apparently was.
 
I mean they had a guy sitting on their bench all season that 1 year had over 20 TD’s only 7 int’s and got to the NFC title game.

I don’t see how people who champion Baker won’t champion that guy as well ? They’re basically the same guy at their best but one had a better playoff run and success…

Baker was the #1 pick and gave the fanbase hope… They’re absolutely petrified that it’s back to the drawing board so there’s this clinging to false hope…. Cause you really can’t make a solid case for Baker…

Nothing even suggests to me that he has the smarts to play the position at a high level consistently in the NFL…. Healthy shoulder or not that guy is not gonna win you a game…. Zero confidence in him making the right play..
Well said & I totally agree. People want so badly to have a ‘franchise QB’ and can’t accept that Baker, after having been drafted #1 and anointed to be that guy, may not actually be him. We have to accept the fact that it’s far more likely that Baker is just another QB, along the same lines as Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Ryan Tannehill, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz that being another high draft pick who didn’t pan out with his original team.
 
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I do find it a little funny that every Baker defender immediately cites some variation of “well he was hurt all year, so obviously it impacted him significantly!”

Yet when someone brings up that Jimmy might be a better player/better fit and should be attainable this offseason, those same Baker supporters race to scream how awful Jimmy is.

But those people are screaming that even though there are numerous reports out there that Jimmy G needs surgery on a torn thumb ligament on his throwing hand and has a sprained throwing shoulder.

Nobody seems to want to acknowledge it when other QB’s play may have been negatively impacted by injuries. Weird.
Jimmy G is injury prone. At some point injury is not an “excuse”.

He has been borderline awful in all of his playoff games.
 
Jimmy G is injury prone. At some point injury is not an “excuse”.

He has been borderline awful in all of his playoff games.

I’m not arguing that Jimmy isn’t injury prone. He has been throughout his career and that would have to be something the Browns (or any other team) would have to take into serious consideration if they wanted to acquire him this offseason.

I just find it curious that a lot of people are more than happy to write off Baker’s poor performance this season for injury reasons, but at the same time ignore injuries when criticizing Garoppolo’s recent struggles.

For the record, I think it’s clear injuries impacted them both significantly.

Jimmy Pre-Thumb Injury: 18/8 TD to INT ratio, 100.7 QB rating in 13 games

Jimmy Post-Thumb Injury: 2/6 TD to INT ratio, 77.9 QB rating in 4 games

If you want to say that Jimmy would have sucked against these playoff caliber opponents regardless, that’s fine. And perhaps he would have struggled anyway.

But it appears there is a clear correlation between the game he got injured and the moment his play this season started falling off the map.
 
I mean they had a guy sitting on their bench all season that 1 year had over 20 TD’s only 7 int’s and got to the NFC title game.

I don’t see how people who champion Baker won’t champion that guy as well ? They’re basically the same guy at their best but one had a better playoff run and success…

Baker was the #1 pick and gave the fanbase hope… They’re absolutely petrified that it’s back to the drawing board so there’s this clinging to false hope…. Cause you really can’t make a solid case for Baker…

Nothing even suggests to me that he has the smarts to play the position at a high level consistently in the NFL…. Healthy shoulder or not that guy is not gonna win you a game…. Zero confidence in him making the right play..

I mean, this was five years ago and he's been on three teams since.
 
Can't believe Baker would miss a wide open WR with the game on the line.

Oh wait, this was Aaron Rodgers.

:chuckle:

"3x MVP and Super Bowl champion Aaron Rodgers did something once that Baker Mayfield does literally every game" certainly wasn't something I expected to check off on the Defend Baker Bingo Card today.
 

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