Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

Sebastian said:
The idea that the Browns tried to trash Mayfield's reputation is hilarious.

The vast majority of his hijinks have never been made public.
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Cleveland media continues to stir the pot and report shit that never happened.

Also, Tampa was his 4th stop, not 2nd. 2 other teams moved on from Baker also, he had some growing to do. He has matured. The skills were there for the Browns to draft him #1 overall, he just didnt show it in 4 years there.

Sucks, we still need a QB, and now backer has matured enough to be better than average, but still nowhere close to top 5.

Probably gets overpaid this offseason though, and becomes a Kirk Cousins like issue. Better than over half the starters, but not worth his contract.

Ironically good chance Cousins is our qb next year.
 
Baker played slightly above .500 ball all year in the worst division in football with arguably the best defense in the league for the 2nd half of the year. Scored a ton of TDs but also turned the ball over like crazy. He got out-dueled by a star.

It pretty much is what it is with him. Good player. Browns took a gamble to replace him with a great player. Gamble failed. Good player is still just a good player.
 
chrisrich91 said:
Baker played slightly above .500 ball all year in the worst division in football with arguably the best defense in the league for the 2nd half of the year. Scored a ton of TDs but also turned the ball over like crazy. He got out-dueled by a star.

It pretty much is what it is with him. Good player. Browns took a gamble to replace him with a great player. Gamble failed. Good player is still just a good player.
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Kind of feel like it was the opposite... Baker took that gamble on himself by not signing an extension that summer and then got hurt, which led to all sorts of issues that season which clearly became not repairable. There is all sorts of what if's with Baker and the Browns... What if the Browns never hired Hue Jackson, fired Sashi, hired Dorsey, which led to Kitchens and OBJ as well...

I will continue to beat this drum, Baker Mayfield was close to being a career back-up QB or even out of the league unless he went through all these missteps which mainly are his fault... He finally grew up after pretty much the entire NFL passed on him and he landed in a great situation in TB and had to earn back his reputation. This was never going to happen without going through the hardships and his learning curve...He signed a 4m dollar contract for a reason that season. Ultimate failure was the Browns drafting Baker over Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen in hindsight... Again I blame the owner for this mess.
 
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chrisrich91 said:
Baker played slightly above .500 ball all year in the worst division in football with arguably the best defense in the league for the 2nd half of the year. Scored a ton of TDs but also turned the ball over like crazy. He got out-dueled by a star.

It pretty much is what it is with him. Good player. Browns took a gamble to replace him with a great player. Gamble failed. Good player is still just a good player.
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I haven't seen a lot of Tampa games, but that defense did not look like the best defense in the league today.

Baker is a good QB who could win games with a better O Line and more than one reliable receiver. But that's true of every QB who ever played the game.
 
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