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It seems Tara Reade lied about having an undergrad degree when she applied to Seattle University Law School. And that this lie may compromise her status as an Expert Witness in a number of cases she testified in; possibly voiding a number of verdicts (and her JD, yikes!).

How did Seattle U. not check her transcripts?

Things continue to unravel.

Last week, the school where she testified to completing a bachelor’s degree, Antioch University in Seattle, confirmed to POLITICO that Reade attended for only three academic quarters and did not graduate. The university also denied Reade’s assertion she had a special arrangement with a former chancellor to credit her with an undergraduate degree under a different name.


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...DJ8o4R6vc1K3Nx5HfJ7763pmz3q4L56DzqyILTUlK5G5Y


Here's a senator who ran for President in 1988 lying about his college degrees.

I went to law school on a full academic scholarship, the only one in my class who had a full academic scholarship," Biden said. "The first year in law school, I decided I didn’t want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class. And then decided I wanted to stay, went back to law school and, in fact, ended up in the top half of my class."

"I’d be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours if you’d like, Frank," he said.

Biden graduated from Syracuse University’s law school in 1968, but not in the top half of his class. He also did not receive three undergraduate degrees. And, according to a September 1987 Newsweek report, Biden didn’t attend law school on a full academic scholarship, either.
In a statement published in response to the Newsweek story, and covered by the New York Times, Biden said his "recollection of this was inaccurate.''

"At a small campaign event in Claremont, N.H., I lost it. I shouldn’t have been there in the first place," Biden wrote. "I didn’t feel any better afterward; what I’d said was a quick and stupid rant that I wished I’d never said. Worse than that, without realizing it I’d exaggerated my academic record."
 
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Here's a senator who ran for President in 1988 lying about his college degrees.

I went to law school on a full academic scholarship, the only one in my class who had a full academic scholarship," Biden said. "The first year in law school, I decided I didn’t want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class. And then decided I wanted to stay, went back to law school and, in fact, ended up in the top half of my class."

"I’d be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours if you’d like, Frank," he said.

Biden graduated from Syracuse University’s law school in 1968, but not in the top half of his class. He also did not receive three undergraduate degrees. And, according to a September 1987 Newsweek report, Biden didn’t attend law school on a full academic scholarship, either.
In a statement published in response to the Newsweek story, and covered by the New York Times, Biden said his "recollection of this was inaccurate.''

"At a small campaign event in Claremont, N.H., I lost it. I shouldn’t have been there in the first place," Biden wrote. "I didn’t feel any better afterward; what I’d said was a quick and stupid rant that I wished I’d never said. Worse than that, without realizing it I’d exaggerated my academic record."
Exaggerating your record, vs not having a degree at all, and lying about it when applying to both law school, and when used as a expert witness in a criminal case, is no comparison.

One is illegal, the other is not.

The point is that Ms. Reade seems to have credibility issues, of which are now verging on the possibility of being charged, to say nothing of verdicts in those cases possibly being vacated.
 

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Exaggerating your record, vs not having a degree at all, and lying about it when applying to both law school, and when used as a expert witness in a criminal case, is no comparison.

One is illegal, the other is not.

The point is that Ms. Reade seems to have credibility issues, of which are now verging on the possibility of being charged, to say nothing of verdicts in those cases possibly being vacated.
Plus Biden admitted to it and apologized after. Doesn't make exaggerating it right to begin with, but it's certainly a different situation than lying on a job or college application.

I'm just generally a bit more forgiving to people who own up to their mistakes and apologize for them. It's why someone like Trump is so frustrating. Not only does he never apologize, but he never admits he is wrong either even though he constantly is.
 

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No one believes you moron. In February you were calling Trump a racist and xenophobic. Sit this one out you dog faced pony soldier.

Trump, Jan. 22: The president tells CNBC that “we have it totally under control” and “it’s going to be just fine.”
Top Biden adviser, Jan. 22: Ron Klain, a Biden adviser who managed the 2014 Ebola response, co-writes a piece excoriating Trump for “brashly” dismissing coronavirus as “under control,” while calling for “expertise” to “guide critical decisions” and noting “reasons for great concern.”
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Trump, Jan. 24: Trump praises and gives thanks to China for its efforts to contain the coronavirus, and adds: “It will all work out well.”
Biden, Jan. 27: Biden publishes an op-ed in USA Today hitting Trump for “shortsighted policies" that "have left us unprepared for a dangerous epidemic,” and warning that the coronavirus “will get worse before it gets better.”
Trump, Jan. 30: Trump says at a rally in Michigan: “We think we have it very well under control.”

Biden, Jan. 31: Biden tells reporters in Iowa that “science” must “lead the way,” adding: “We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus.”
Biden, Feb. 1: Biden tweets: “We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science.”
Trump, Feb. 2: Trump goes on Sean Hannity’s show and claims: “We pretty much shut it down, coming in from China.” Trump extols our “tremendous relationship” with China, and adds: “We did shut it down, yes.”

Trump, Feb. 10: Trump claims that “a lot of people” think the coronavirus “goes away in April with the heat,” adding that we only have “11 cases,” and that “we’re in great shape.”
Biden, Feb. 11: Biden goes on “Morning Joe” and excoriates Trump for claiming the coronavirus will disappear in the warm weather, crossing himself while doing so, and adding: “You couldn’t make it up.”

Trump, Feb. 26: Trump claims the media is conspiring with Democrats to hype the coronavirus to rattle the markets. Trump also says the coronavirus is “going very substantially down, not up.”
Trump, Feb. 27: Trump hails his administration’s handling of the coronavirus, and while he does reveal a hint of uncertainty, he says: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”
Trump, Feb. 28: Trump shouts at a rally in South Carolina that Democrats’ criticism of his response (which proved entirely accurate) is “their new hoax.”
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Biden, Feb. 28: Biden goes on CNN and says Trump has yet to “gain control” of the coronavirus, while calling on Trump to stop downplaying it and urging him instead to “let the experts take this over” and “let the experts speak.”

Trump, March 9: Trump dismissively compares the coronavirus with flu, claiming flu kills tens of thousands annually and that “life & the economy go on.”
Trump, March 10: Trump again hails the “great job” he’s doing on the coronavirus, and declares: “It will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
Biden, March 12: Biden gives a speech stressing the importance of presidential truth-telling amid crises, noting that Trump’s ongoing falsifications risk leaving Americans without reliable guidance, compounding “public fears.”
Trump, March 13: Asked about the administration’s epic failure to ramp up testing, Trump declares: “I don’t take responsibility at all.”
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Biden, March 15: Biden responds to that Trump quote by reiterating his call for widespread free testing, and by declaring: “It is the job of the president to take responsibility — and his response is unacceptable.”
Trump, March 17: After all that, Trump preposterously proclaims: “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic"
 

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I do think it's sad that the Democratic nominee is an infinitesimal upgrade from Trump regarding civil liberties.
 

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No one believes you moron. In February you were calling Trump a racist and xenophobic. Sit this one out you dog faced pony soldier.
I believe him.
 

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What Biden offers in the speech below is a series of platitudes coming from a hypocritical mouth. And yet, it is more coherent and empathetic than anything the president is even capable of. Trump sets the bar so insanely low that even gaffe-machine stutterin' Joe blows him away.


EDIT: Here's another clip where he mentions some actual policy proposals. Again, Trump is simply incapable of this. The Democrats have had to be dragged kicking and screaming toward these conclusions, but I don't see any Republicans doing jack shit right now (at least former GOP member Amash is trying).

 
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Biden doing a very good job of looking Presidential. Even his “If you support Trump you ain’t black” gaffe doesn’t even seem like a gaffe a week later. It seems spot on.

Keep acting Presidential and let Trump keep committing unforced errors like he did by gassing his own people.

The Mattis news was just unbelievable. Now that Trump has lost the military he is in critical condition.

I’m looking forward to “Team Joe”. Everyone has to rally like its Normandy this summer/fall.
 

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It's a miracle that he's starting to gain this momentum because he's generally just not doing anything. His policies suck and his ability to "unite" the country isn't great because he's had history of being behind racist policies. But, he's not Donald Trump and (barely) has a pulse so he'll do.
 

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It's a miracle that he's starting to gain this momentum because he's generally just not doing anything. His policies suck and his ability to "unite" the country isn't great because he's had history of being behind racist policies. But, he's not Donald Trump and (barely) has a pulse so he'll do.
Any politician as old as Biden who has been in the Senate since the 1970s is going to have past positions that don’t age well. It’s 2020 and things are a lot different.

But personally I like a leader whose position changes with the times and new data. I view it as a strength. Yes I disagree with some of his positions...I would prefer full legalization of weed and Medicare for all vs Joe’s mere decriminalization of weed and Medicare expansion to age 60. But both of those are steps in the right direction and it’s all I can choose in November.

I’ll take Joe for the next four years and see if he gets a primary challenge in 2024.
 

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Seems like all the talk of Biden being unable to articulate and speak publicly was a bit premature. He was pretty on point there.
My concerns were washed away with his past month or so of very cogent speeches and interviews.

I also don't think the prior questions were undeserved. I feel like something has changed. I'm just glad it happened.
 

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