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Penn St Strength of schedule ranks #74 out of 120 teams. Ohio States is 21.

Penn State - 8-1
Ohio State - 5-3

They've beat Akron, Toledo, Colorado, Illinois and Wisconsin. Whether the SOS is tougher or not is one thing, but don't kid yourself and tell me that Penn State "hasn't beat anybody," when Ohio State really hasn't either. Way to take what I said and just narrow it down to one point, by the way. A resume is not JUST strength of schedule, it is the body of work.

The perception from Ohio State fans and media is that Penn State may as well not even exist right now.

Times Leader Online - "Ohio State controls its own destiny in Big Ten Leaders Division"

Buckeyes 101 - "If Ohio State wins out, then they go to the championship. If Ohio State loses to Penn State and Wisconsin defeats Penn State, there will be a three way tie for first place, and the division winner will be determined by tie-breaker. In most of the likely scenarios, Ohio State goes to the championship game."
The Lantern - "Led by the ground attack and saved by one timely miracle, Ohio State virtually controls its own destiny in the Leaders division after an upset-victory over No. 12 Wisconsin."

Cleveland.com - "Ohio State's road in the Leaders Division, where the Buckeyes almost control their own destiny."

(at least CLE said "almost") - You either control your own destiny, or you don't. Ohio State doesn't. Penn State does. Ohio State needs to beat Penn State, and while I am not saying Penn State is going to win, and the Buckeyes are going to have to show up to do so. Penn State has a very comparable (in yards better) offense statistically as Ohio State, and by far one of the best defenses in the nation.
 
How has Ohio State beaten nobody? Wisconsin is 100x better then anyone Penn State has beaten, and the fact is they would have beaten Nebraska had Miller not gotten hurt.
 
How has Ohio State beaten nobody? Wisconsin is 100x better then anyone Penn State has beaten, and the fact is they would have beaten Nebraska had Miller not gotten hurt.

You obviously, like most people, don't read what I said. I said that up until last week Ohio State literally had done nothing. All of a sudden one win at home against an exposed Wisconsin team makes a 5-3 Ohio State team look like gold?

Don't give me the ifs and buts either - who cares if he got hurt? The game was lost. I'd love to say if Alabama hadn't been given an extra 2 yards on a bad fake punt spot that the Penn State - Alabama game would've been way different, but thats foolish.

Ohio State was up 27-6 on Nebraska - their defense shouldn't have blown the game. Miller being out hurt for sure, but not enough to all of a sudden warp a huge 28 point comeback. The defense failed Ohio State big time in that game.
 
You obviously, like most people, don't read what I said. I said that up until last week Ohio State literally had done nothing. All of a sudden one win at home against an exposed Wisconsin team makes a 5-3 Ohio State team look like gold?

Don't give me the ifs and buts either - who cares if he got hurt? The game was lost. I'd love to say if Alabama hadn't been given an extra 2 yards on a bad fake punt spot that the Penn State - Alabama game would've been way different, but thats foolish.

Ohio State was up 27-6 on Nebraska - their defense shouldn't have blown the game. Miller being out hurt for sure, but not enough to all of a sudden warp a huge 28 point comeback. The defense failed Ohio State big time in that game.

The reason the defense blew it was because they were on the field the whole second half thanks to Bauserman with the 3 and out express.
 
You obviously, like most people, don't read what I said. I said that up until last week Ohio State literally had done nothing. All of a sudden one win at home against an exposed Wisconsin team makes a 5-3 Ohio State team look like gold?

Don't give me the ifs and buts either - who cares if he got hurt? The game was lost. I'd love to say if Alabama hadn't been given an extra 2 yards on a bad fake punt spot that the Penn State - Alabama game would've been way different, but thats foolish.

Ohio State was up 27-6 on Nebraska - their defense shouldn't have blown the game. Miller being out hurt for sure, but not enough to all of a sudden warp a huge 28 point comeback. The defense failed Ohio State big time in that game.
I don't think anyone is arguing OSU is 'gold'. They simply don't have much left on their schedule, and they could win out and make the championship game, with Penn State losing to either Nebraska or Wisconsin, which is most likely going to happen.

and basically what huber said.. Nerbaska couldn't stop Miller at all, he got hurt and then Bauserman came in and started throwing passes to fans..
 
You obviously, like most people, don't read what I said. I said that up until last week Ohio State literally had done nothing. All of a sudden one win at home against an exposed Wisconsin team makes a 5-3 Ohio State team look like gold?

Don't give me the ifs and buts either - who cares if he got hurt? The game was lost. I'd love to say if Alabama hadn't been given an extra 2 yards on a bad fake punt spot that the Penn State - Alabama game would've been way different, but thats foolish.

Ohio State was up 27-6 on Nebraska - their defense shouldn't have blown the game. Miller being out hurt for sure, but not enough to all of a sudden warp a huge 28 point comeback. The defense failed Ohio State big time in that game.

Wisconsin is now shitty and "exposed" now that Ohio State edged them at home.

lmao
 
I went to highschool with Braxton :cool: And Wisconsin is by no means "shitty"
 
I like how wins at a ranked Illinois and a home win against a ranked Wisconsin are not quality wins. Keep spinnin' baby.

[video=youtube;ZUatnbaNfEo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUatnbaNfEo[/video]
 
I see no reason to think that a Penn State fan wouldn't have some faith in their 8-1 team to win at least 1 of 3 remaining Big Ten games in order to get into that Championship game.

That being said, fuck Penn State and go Buckeyes. I hope we stomp their goofy asses and win the Big Ten while suck, which is like dipping your balls in ink before tea-bagging somebody.
 
Wisconsin is now shitty and "exposed" now that Ohio State edged them at home.

lmao

Just said they were exposed - which, unless you're an absolute dumbass, you see the have been exposed. They were unbeatable before, and now two teams showed how to beat them.

I like how wins at a ranked Illinois and a home win against a ranked Wisconsin are not quality wins. Keep spinnin' baby.

[video=youtube;ZUatnbaNfEo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUatnbaNfEo[/video]

Again - Wisconsin is a fine win. But if you don't call Penn State over Illinois quality, you sure as hell can't call Ohio State over Illinois quality. It isn't quality for one and not for the other. Making fun of Penn State for barely beating IU on the road, but Ohio State sure as hell didn't look AMAZING against them yesterday. My point is that people are just discrediting them too easily. Northwestern beats Nebraska, Iowa beats Michigan - but Penn State beats those teams and it is nothing special.

I see no reason to think that a Penn State fan wouldn't have some faith in their 8-1 team to win at least 1 of 3 remaining Big Ten games in order to get into that Championship game.

That being said, fuck Penn State and go Buckeyes. I hope we stomp their goofy asses and win the Big Ten while suck, which is like dipping your balls in ink before tea-bagging somebody.

Best response (though they must win two not just one). If you want a serious prediction from me - I believe Ohio State will be Penn State's toughest remaining game. If I had to tab one loss, it'd be that game. Joe can't win there (even if he doesn't coach anymore really).

Go Big Ten.
 
Just said they were exposed - which, unless you're an absolute dumbass, you see the have been exposed. They were unbeatable before, and now two teams showed how to beat them.

Exposed as .... what? I knew they weren't unbeatable, and predicted OSU to beat them. :rofl:

How does this discredit OSU win at all? Wisconsin is still a very good team.
 
Now would be a good time for the NCAA to release their ruling on Ohio State. With the Penn St. story so engulfing a ruling that isn't as harsh as the nation wanted would largely go unnoticed by fans and the media. I really hope they are not waiting until after Michigan to tell us.
 
[video=youtube;XhI0OVs_zj0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhI0OVs_zj0[/video]
 
Everything that could have gone wrong has gone wrong when it came to crunch time with this team.

Don't really know what else to say. Two fumbles when we finally get momentum when were down by one score? Are you kidding me? I realize the teams young and everything but seriously were better than Penn State.
 

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