Bobby BradGOAT

[macbdog]

Here's a weird stat on Harold Ramirez.

As a left fielder: .216/.508 in 139 AB's
As a right fielder: .340/.975 in 106 AB's

Ironically enough that is also the OPS of opposing batters when they hit it to him in RF.

 

[CATS44]

No.

Do you prefer trotting out Zimmer, Harold, and Mercado again?

BOTH corner outfield positions need addressed. There is no way that I see in which we can fill both positions with huge upgrades. So one upgrade will have to be a short term signing something like we did with Eddie.

There were several of those type of signings last winter that worked quite well. Eddie just wasn't one of them.

Maybe you do, but I dont want to see the hot mess that we have playing in the corners next year.

If we had the budget for a $120 mil payroll, I wouldn't look at Canha. But we don't, and he is one the affordable options we can look at.

We need to sign a short term upgrade to act as a bridge to some of our kids, like Valera. Canha fits the description, and there will be a few others.

 

[Alabuckeye]

I would rather trot out Bobby Bradley at 1B than Harold Ramirez/Mercado in the OF. I.E. given limited resources, I think we trade/sign an OF before a 1B. And, I think BB has more room for growth than the other two.

 

[avs2000]

We could bring back Julio Franco.

and Julio could probably still hit

 

[sportscoach]

and Julio could probably still hit

I keep saying we need a veteran leader, so he could be that guy plus showing those young whippersnappers how it's done!

 

[KluberSociety]

Do you prefer trotting out Zimmer, Harold, and Mercado again?

BOTH corner outfield positions need addressed. There is no way that I see in which we can fill both positions with huge upgrades. So one upgrade will have to be a short term signing something like we did with Eddie.

There were several of those type of signings last winter that worked quite well. Eddie just wasn't one of them.

Maybe you do, but I dont want to see the hot mess that we have playing in the corners next year.

If we had the budget for a $120 mil payroll, I wouldn't look at Canha. But we don't, and he is one the affordable options we can look at.

We need to sign a short term upgrade to act as a bridge to some of our kids, like Valera. Canha fits the description, and there will be a few others.

I'm leaning more to signing one player. We have enough players already on the roster who can mix and match for the other spot. For instance moving Amed into the OF.

Zimmer just looks like the Zimmer we all knew and got frustrated with. I don't think he's the option in the sense of being worth a roster spot. Harold is low OBP that's bad at defense, let him go. Really think we can let Jet and OGon walk (I know the latter is liked by a lot here but he seems not much different from Harold except he strikes out a lot more and plays arguably better defense with a little power boost).

Going into the season with Mercado and Kwan as OF options with the thought that we could move Amed or maybe eventually Jones there - that seems like an equation that is fine for a 3rd OF slot. Who knows what will follow but I don't think it'll kill us along the course of the 2022 season. The problem is in 2021 we had 3 slots that weren't doing much of anything, which with the acquisition of Straw got bumped down to 2 slots.

Plugging in that last slot with solid defenders who can at least make contact with the ball doesn't seem too bad.

 

[Real Deal]

I don't think BradGOAT has done enough to solidify a 1B position. He came up hot, but quickly got picked apart.

Not saying there's better options in the organization, but there certainly will be on the market.

The only definite postion players IMO are Straw, Amed, Hosey, Franimal.

 

[Kevalier]

I don't think BradGOAT has done enough to solidify a 1B position. He came up hot, but quickly got picked apart.

Not saying there's better options in the organization, but there certainly will be on the market.

The only definite postion players IMO are Straw, Ahmed, Hosey, Franimal.

Completely agree with everything here.

 

[CATS44]

Yes.

There are better options out there that Bradley. But the same thing can be said for every position player on the team than Jose.

Without a $200 mil payroll, every team has to prioritize the positions that most need upgraded. That goes double for the Guardians.

First base is at most the third highest priority for 2022.

If there are enough assets left over after the outfield spots are upgraded, then first base can be addressed.

 

[Gson]

Better for a specific spot.. or does the sum of the parts make a difference?..

Examples are many.. but the basis comes down to using the tools we have to evaluate the resulting team..

Player A is worth 100 & contributes every fifth day (yes.. he's a starter)

Players B, C, & D are cummulatively worth 100, but B & C contribute every day while D contributes ever fifth day.. B, C & D cost 1/5th the price that A cost the team, leaving 4/5ths of A's salary available for extensions, other acquisitions or to put in the pocket of the owner.

A is older/ more establish and therefore much more expensive: as in = five times the price..

So.. which team is better.. the one with A and the inherent risk of putting all your eggs into one basket or the one with B & C starting every day while the current/already on the team pitcher's 2, 3, & 4 move up one spot and D fills the role as a replacement starter.. Nothing says that B,C and or D cannot fall victim to injury, as well..

Which group do you want for a team looking to compete for a playoff spot AFTER a season where the team DIDN'T?????

Now.. you can see why trading JRam.. while undesired.. still has to be considered.. Anybody saying it's not likely..is right.. Everybody watched as Tito, Shane and Zach and Aaron were lost for big chunks of the season.. rendering the team.. non-competitive.. They would be right in evaluating the season as noncompetitive too..

Thoughts?..

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

With Bradley it's pretty simple - he's great when he's ahead in the count and helpless when he gets behind.

When Bradley puts the ball in play when the count is 1-0, 2-1, or 3-1 he is hitting .406. (He never put the ball in play on a 2-0 count, which is astonishing).

When he puts the ball in play, or swings and misses, when the count is 0-1, 0-2, or 1-2 he's hitting .156. When he hits or misses a 2-2 pitch he's hitting .150.

Bradley is a horrible two-strike hitter. He's hitting .110 (15-for-136) with two strikes.

The most amazing stat is that he's 0-for-24 on a 3-2 count with 19 K's. He does have 15 walks, however. So in the 39 times he has had a 3-2 count this season he does not have a hit and has put the ball in play 5 times.

He also struggles on the road. His home/road OPS is .858/.629. His mom should pack him lunches for road trips.

One thing you can say for Bradley, he's very motivated, having lost a lot of weight and gotten in much better shape. He's trying to take outside pitches to left-center and having some success. I would like to see him get a full season of playing every day and see what he can do. He just turned 25 in May. But if he is to make it in the bigs the coaches need to work with him on his two-strike hitting. I think he gets nervous about being called out and chases pitches out of the zone that he would take early in the count.

I've always wondered whether hitters' production would improve if they forced themselves to pretend the count was 0-0 on every pitch, regardless of the actual count. How many times have I seen hitters take close pitches for balls early in the count and then chase the same pitch with two strikes, getting themselves out? You hear announcers talk about "expanding the strike zone" with two strikes. It's true - batters will chase pitches with two strikes that they won't swing at with zero or one strike. Amed is a good example.

My belief is that hitters make a lot more outs chasing bad pitches with two strikes than they would if they took those pitches and got called out a few more times. I think Bradley has no chance of being a successful big league player as long as he hits .110 with two strikes on him.

 

[sportscoach]

With Bradley it's pretty simple - he's great when he's ahead in the count and helpless when he gets behind.

When Bradley puts the ball in play when the count is 1-0, 2-1, or 3-1 he is hitting .406. (He never put the ball in play on a 2-0 count, which is astonishing).

When he puts the ball in play, or swings and misses, when the count is 0-1, 0-2, or 1-2 he's hitting .156. When he hits or misses a 2-2 pitch he's hitting .150.

Bradley is a horrible two-strike hitter. He's hitting .110 (15-for-136) with two strikes.

The most amazing stat is that he's 0-for-24 on a 3-2 count with 19 K's. He does have 15 walks, however. So in the 39 times he has had a 3-2 count this season he does not have a hit and has put the ball in play 5 times.

He also struggles on the road. His home/road OPS is .858/.629. His mom should pack him lunches for road trips.

One thing you can say for Bradley, he's very motivated, having lost a lot of weight and gotten in much better shape. He's trying to take outside pitches to left-center and having some success. I would like to see him get a full season of playing every day and see what he can do. He just turned 25 in May. But if he is to make it in the bigs the coaches need to work with him on his two-strike hitting. I think he gets nervous about being called out and chases pitches out of the zone that he would take early in the count.

I've always wondered whether hitters' production would improve if they forced themselves to pretend the count was 0-0 on every pitch, regardless of the actual count. How many times have I seen hitters take close pitches for balls early in the count and then chase the same pitch with two strikes, getting themselves out? You hear announcers talk about "expanding the strike zone" with two strikes. It's true - batters will chase pitches with two strikes that they won't swing at with zero or one strike. Amed is a good example.

My belief is that hitters make a lot more outs chasing bad pitches with two strikes than they would if they took those pitches and got called out a few more times. I think Bradley has no chance of being a successful big league player as long as he hits .110 with two strikes on him.

Bradley needs one more season honestly before we can judge him as the first half guy or the second half guy of his call up. His power is legit so if he keeps working hard and works on his holes, I think he can be a serviceable major league 1B at the very least...

 

[NorthCoastBias]

The title of this thread makes me irrationally angry.

 

[DickyLeftridge]

The title of this thread makes me irrationally angry.

Sounds like a you problem tbh

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

The title of this thread makes me irrationally angry.

I don't understand why anyone would use the term "GOAT" in connection with Bobby Bradley, but I don't think it's worth getting angry about, irrational or otherwise.