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Q: How inept does a franchise have to be to draft a QB that old in the first round?

A: Inept enough to also draft a RB 3rd overall in the same draft.
*traded up from number 4 to get the RB at number 3. A running back which had significant questions about how he would do when he wasnt running behind a stacked offensive line.

That said after one of the worst full seasons by a first round running back in quite some time, the browns were still able to trade him for a first round pick.
 

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*traded up from number 4 to get the RB at number 3. A running back which had significant questions about how he would do when he wasnt running behind a stacked offensive line.

That said after one of the worst full seasons by a first round running back in quite some time, the browns were still able to trade him for a first round pick.
And used that pick on........

Sigh
 

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NFL.com's Judy Battista reports pass interference replay almost certainly will not be extended.
The league is also reportedly in discussions of potentially enabling a "Sky judge" feature. The Competition Committee continues to discuss rules ahead of their still-on-schedule meeting at the end of May, which is when a vote will take place. Replay for pass interference was put into place after an egregious no-call on Rams CB Nickell Robey-Coleman arguably cost the Saints a berth in the Super Bowl during the 2018-2019 NFC Championship. The idea wasn't terrible, but the NFL's referees made the issue an even bigger mess than before by hardly ever changing the call on the field. If they aren't going to change the original call, it probably makes sense to revert back to the original system.
 

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I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for him for handing the intercepted ball to Hue on the sidelines during that Bengals blowout.
I became a life long Randall fan after that and will always cheer for him individually.

As far as Vernon/Clowney go, I feel Vernon is criminally underrated around here and is an excellent player. His biggest weakness is his durability, which has unfortunately been a problem in his time here. I think we should hold on to him for this year with the lone exception being if you can get Clowney at close to the same salary. I think you have to do that and cut Vernon loose.

It's great to be in a position where we're actually debating cutting a very good player for the chance at an even better one. I certainly prefer it over debating how much to pay Briean Boddy-Calhoun.
 

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I am a big fan and would love the signing... as long as his contract expired when Garrett gets his extension.
That seems unlikely though, doesn't it? We have a team option for Garrett for 2021, but that's probably the point where we'd extend him. And I don't think Clowney is going to be keen on signing a contract that short.
 

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I became a life long Randall fan after that and will always cheer for him individually.

As far as Vernon/Clowney go, I feel Vernon is criminally underrated around here and is an excellent player. His biggest weakness is his durability, which has unfortunately been a problem in his time here. I think we should hold on to him for this year with the lone exception being if you can get Clowney at close to the same salary. I think you have to do that and cut Vernon loose.

It's great to be in a position where we're actually debating cutting a very good player for the chance at an even better one. I certainly prefer it over debating how much to pay Briean Boddy-Calhoun.
Agreed on Vernon. You only cut him if you've got his replacement on the roster. Until then, it makes more sense to hang onto him.
 

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That seems unlikely though, doesn't it? We have a team option for Garrett for 2021, but that's probably the point where we'd extend him. And I don't think Clowney is going to be keen on signing a contract that short.
It sounds like Clowney only wants a one-year deal so he can get a more expensive one next year, no?
 

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It sounds like Clowney only wants a one-year deal so he can get a more expensive one next year, no?
If that's the case, then you're right. He certainly makes more sense at $17-18M than does Vernon at $15M. Although I'd imagine they might be able to redo Vernon's deal.
 

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If that's the case, then you're right. He certainly makes more sense at $17-18M than does Vernon at $15M. Although I'd imagine they might be able to redo Vernon's deal.
To be clear, if Clowney wants more than two years at $17m or Vernon is willing to take less money and extend long-term, then I would much rather have Vernon. Clowney is a good short-term signing because he is very good and compensatory picks.

I really am not a fan of giving any defensive line player - including Myes - large long-term contracts. I do not think that they impact the passing game as much as good coverage players.

I also think, generally, EDGE players are way over-valued. Myles got pressure on 49/324 pass-rush snaps last season (15% of snaps). That is amazing and amongst the highest in the NFL, all the more surprising because of the staggering amount of double-teams that he faced.

But here is the thing, even if you think that he had an impact on every snap as a pass-rusher, is he really having as much of an impact as two starting safeties or a starting outside and slot cornerback? Personally, I think the answer is no, but my guess is the Browns would rather keep Myles. I do think that is justifiable, but no way in hell would I support spending big money on any other defensive line player.
 

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I despise project qbs. Especially in the early rounds. It’s a waste of a pick that could be a starter. 6th or 7th round sure take the project guy. But not in the 3rd or 4th. We have too many needs and those rounds still produce starters. We still need guards and LBs.
Except Mahommes and Lamar were considered project guys and they seem ok so far.
 

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In a memo sent to all 32 teams Monday, commissioner Roger Goodell announced that the 2020 NFL draft will be conducted "entirely outside of their facilities and in a fully virtual format."
Essentially, it's like a fantasy football draft conducted entirely from remote locations with each and every member of the front offices and coaching staffs checking in from their respective homes. Some teams had looked into holding their drafts at a central meeting point, like a brewery, but the NFL wants all clubs to "operate in a consistent and fair way." This is something we've obviously never seen before and could lead to a number of technical issues throughout the weekend, but the NFL is determined to get through it. NFL offices have been closed since March 13 and team facilities were shut down March 26.
 

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In a memo sent to all 32 teams Monday, commissioner Roger Goodell announced that the 2020 NFL draft will be conducted "entirely outside of their facilities and in a fully virtual format."
Essentially, it's like a fantasy football draft conducted entirely from remote locations with each and every member of the front offices and coaching staffs checking in from their respective homes. Some teams had looked into holding their drafts at a central meeting point, like a brewery, but the NFL wants all clubs to "operate in a consistent and fair way." This is something we've obviously never seen before and could lead to a number of technical issues throughout the weekend, but the NFL is determined to get through it. NFL offices have been closed since March 13 and team facilities were shut down March 26.
Alright, who's willing to put in the research to identify other teams' important personnel's IP addresses?

Imagine what a DDoS attack could do. It would be an absolute shit show and they might have to cancel the draft in the middle of the first round.
 

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