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Unless he doesn't live anywhere near a Tesla service center

Most major cities have one and they also have mobile service

https://www.tesla.com/service

Also, Tesla isn't the only electric car (Nissan Leaf is about $4k cheaper plus has a larger tax rebate for people who pay more than $3750 in federal tax). They just happen to make the best ones, the model 3 is kicking the butt of all of the luxury car makers, selling more than all of them combined, now as of a few days ago they have a $35k model before a $3,750 tax rebate or factoring in the yearly savings on gas.

Tesla also makes the safest cars with across the board 5 star safety ratings

https://www.tesla.com/model3
 
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Most major cities have one and they also have mobile service

https://www.tesla.com/service

Also, Tesla isn't the only electric car (Nissan Leaf is about $4k cheaper plus has a larger tax rebate for people who pay more than $3750 in federal tax). They just happen to make the best ones, the model 3 is kicking the butt of all of the luxury car makers, selling more than all of them combined, now as of a few days ago they have a $35k model before a $3,750 tax rebate or factoring in the yearly savings on gas.

Tesla also makes the safest cars with across the board 5 star safety ratings

https://www.tesla.com/model3

Another thing is how close he lives to a supercharger station if he lives in a place that he doesn't have a garage or only has a 110v outlet in the garage. 110v will only give 5 miles of charge an hour. You really need close access to a supercharger or have a 220v in your garage to make it truly a daily driver car.
 
Another thing is how close he lives to a supercharger station if he lives in a place that he doesn't have a garage or only has a 110v outlet in the garage. 110v will only give 5 miles of charge an hour. You really need close access to a supercharger or have a 220v in your garage to make it truly a daily driver car.

if you own a home, you can have the 220v charger installed.

Anyone who supports massive tax increases on people other than themselves to solve climate change should also be willing to take small steps like installing a charger and buying electric cars instead of gas powered cars.

When the only good electric cars were 100k it wasn't feasible, but when they are now down $30-35k before tax credits, it's pretty hypocritical to complain the government isn't doing enough when individuals won't take even a small step like this when they are spending close to that amount already to buy a new car.
 
if you own a home, you can have the 220v charger installed.

Anyone who supports massive tax increases on people other than themselves to solve climate change should also be willing to take small steps like installing a charger and buying electric cars instead of gas powered cars.

When the only good electric cars were 100k it wasn't feasible, but when they are now down $30-35k before tax credits, it's pretty hypocritical to complain the government isn't doing enough when individuals won't take even a small step like this when they are spending close to that amount already to buy a new car.

220v for someone who owns their home isn't that hard to install but if you live in an apartment complex or condo where the garage isn't attached to the unit, it becomes alot more complicated. Even having access to a 110v outlet in some situations might be hard.

I think electric cars make alot of sense for a large segment of the population but some situations it truly doesn't make sense.

I looked up the closes supercharger station to me and it's at least 25 minutes away. I have a garage but for my friends that live in older apartments, I'm not sure how they would charge the car without wasting alot of time on a weekly basis.
 
Thanks everyone for all the advice. I really do appreciate it. I was leaning towards trying to salvage the Honda, but you guys really laid it out nicely and I just bought a 2019 RAV4

I tried out the Camry, but it was just too small for me. I’ve gotten used to a bigger car

I went new. I looked at a lot of certified pre-owneds online and I ended up getting the RAV4 down to 22,200. The difference between listed prices for the CPO and that 22,200 for ones under 30K miles was so small (and some of the cpo were more than that). Obviously I could’ve also tried to negotiate the cpo ones down, but I liked the test drive, needed a car, and have never bought a new car. Maybe I’m a sucker but I tried to do as much research as I could

I’ve spent a few hundred in Uber’s the last 2 weeks with very minimal travel ($25-30/day just transit to/from work) so that was also starting to become a hindrance.

Buying a car when you need one kind of sucks. I’m happy with how it turned out and hope to not have to do this again for a long long time
 
@KI4MVP I wasn’t ignoring you, I just honestly didn’t have time to do a full blown projection of costs and the research into what owning an electric car entails. I did see that there is a super center about 1.5 miles from my apartment. But I’m also in an apartment where I don’t have a garage

If it was a situation where I wasn’t forced into buying a new car I would’ve done more research into it.
 
Thanks everyone for all the advice. I really do appreciate it. I was leaning towards trying to salvage the Honda, but you guys really laid it out nicely and I just bought a 2019 RAV4

I tried out the Camry, but it was just too small for me. I’ve gotten used to a bigger car

I went new. I looked at a lot of certified pre-owneds online and I ended up getting the RAV4 down to 22,200. The difference between listed prices for the CPO and that 22,200 for ones under 30K miles was so small (and some of the cpo were more than that). Obviously I could’ve also tried to negotiate the cpo ones down, but I liked the test drive, needed a car, and have never bought a new car. Maybe I’m a sucker but I tried to do as much research as I could

I’ve spent a few hundred in Uber’s the last 2 weeks with very minimal travel ($25-30/day just transit to/from work) so that was also starting to become a hindrance.

Buying a car when you need one kind of sucks. I’m happy with how it turned out and hope to not have to do this again for a long long time

What did you do with your CRV? You might be able to sell it instead of sending it to a junk yard.
 
What did you do with your CRV? You might be able to sell it instead of sending it to a junk yard.
Gonna go to the shop and deal with it tomorrow. I told them I needed a few days to think it over and that was a few days ago.

Cosmetically, the car is in bad shape. At my old job some black tarry substance splattered all over it while it was in the parking garage. They never owned up to it and I wasn’t taking it to a body shop to pay for my stupid work’s damage to my car when I was still going to park in the same deck and I had no faith it wouldn’t happen again.

I’ll see what they think, but any amount I can salvage for it would be nice

It doesn’t look dissimilar to a leopard
 
Thanks everyone for all the advice. I really do appreciate it. I was leaning towards trying to salvage the Honda, but you guys really laid it out nicely and I just bought a 2019 RAV4

I tried out the Camry, but it was just too small for me. I’ve gotten used to a bigger car

I went new. I looked at a lot of certified pre-owneds online and I ended up getting the RAV4 down to 22,200. The difference between listed prices for the CPO and that 22,200 for ones under 30K miles was so small (and some of the cpo were more than that). Obviously I could’ve also tried to negotiate the cpo ones down, but I liked the test drive, needed a car, and have never bought a new car. Maybe I’m a sucker but I tried to do as much research as I could

I’ve spent a few hundred in Uber’s the last 2 weeks with very minimal travel ($25-30/day just transit to/from work) so that was also starting to become a hindrance.

Buying a car when you need one kind of sucks. I’m happy with how it turned out and hope to not have to do this again for a long long time

I bought a RAV4 last summer. Nice vehicle. Handy in the winter, excellent view for driving and there's lots of times I use the cargo space.
 
Thanks everyone for all the advice. I really do appreciate it. I was leaning towards trying to salvage the Honda, but you guys really laid it out nicely and I just bought a 2019 RAV4

I tried out the Camry, but it was just too small for me. I’ve gotten used to a bigger car

I went new. I looked at a lot of certified pre-owneds online and I ended up getting the RAV4 down to 22,200. The difference between listed prices for the CPO and that 22,200 for ones under 30K miles was so small (and some of the cpo were more than that). Obviously I could’ve also tried to negotiate the cpo ones down, but I liked the test drive, needed a car, and have never bought a new car. Maybe I’m a sucker but I tried to do as much research as I could

I’ve spent a few hundred in Uber’s the last 2 weeks with very minimal travel ($25-30/day just transit to/from work) so that was also starting to become a hindrance.

Buying a car when you need one kind of sucks. I’m happy with how it turned out and hope to not have to do this again for a long long time

Good choice, while its a chick car, the convenience of having an SUV, but at a size that gets you good gas mileage from one the most reliable brands at only 22k.

I found that in the current car market, the gently used cars are not worth it as you can get new cars for almost the exact same price with full warranty and better financing. I bought a new car last year for only the 2nd time in my entire life. Used cars are currently over priced at the 30k and under level.
 
Why is that question even relevant? We have a moral obligation to leave the world better than we found it. Climate change is already causing problems, which are only going to get significantly worse within the lifespan of people alive today. Some of that it’s already to late to stop, some of it can be prevented.

Can’t wait around for government to do it all. People and responsible corporations acting in bulk can make a massive difference.

My issue with electrics have always been:

1) Reliability off-road
2) Range
3) Ability to function in the event of a disaster, i.e., a down power-grid.

Five years ago all those issues were deal-breakers for me as I am a person that enjoys off-roading and driving into hidden places no where near charge stations. Also, living on the West Coast means electrics are an earthquake away from being useless for a while. Plus, electrics are not great choices for cross-country trips given the charging time necessary.

But now? Those aren't issues and the big name luxury brands are finally putting out plug ins and hybrids.

My next vehicle is going to be the Range Rover Sport hybrid. The battery gets 30 miles on its own, which covers most daily commute driving, and driving charges it. It's a Rover so that means it can go anywhere. All my boxes are now checked.

We are now living in a world where the reasons for not buying at least a hybrid are rapidly diminishing.
 
Have driven 2 Honda Accords, 1 Toyota Camry.

Camry probably a little smoother but also plain and not stylish. I just felt lame in this car.

Accord - stylish, fun to drive, I have the sport package and it looks cool without looking douchey.

I wouldn't consider buying anything but Japanese. 160K isn't bad, sure you'd like to get to 200K but after 150K, things can happen.

Buying used? Um, I'm just gonna say I've definitely fucked girls in the front and backseats of my cars before getting rid of, so keep that in mind...
 
Have driven 2 Honda Accords, 1 Toyota Camry.

Camry probably a little smoother but also plain and not stylish. I just felt lame in this car.

Accord - stylish, fun to drive, I have the sport package and it looks cool without looking douchey.

I wouldn't consider buying anything but Japanese. 160K isn't bad, sure you'd like to get to 200K but after 150K, things can happen.

Buying used? Um, I'm just gonna say I've definitely fucked girls in the front and backseats of my cars before getting rid of, so keep that in mind...

Another reason to buy electric cars. There are Tesla’s on the road with 300k and 400k miles that have only ever had routine service at a fraction of the cost of servicing a gas powered car.

https://insideevs.com/highest-mileage-tesla-now-has-over-420000-miles/
https://jalopnik.com/this-is-what-happens-when-you-put-300-000-miles-on-a-te-1798662230
 
We are now living in a world where the reasons for not buying at least a hybrid are rapidly diminishing.

I haven't crunched the math lately on newest vehicles, but in the past it was always the case that the hybrid upcharge is thousands of dollars and you would need to drive the car for 10+ years to get a return on investment vs. just buying a bunch of gas.
 
I am thinking of a new vehicle.

I am thing medium-sized SUV or a nice saloon.

Can anyone make a case for buying domestic on the sedan?
 

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