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Cavaliers Trade Ideas: 2022-23 regular season edition

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adam81king said:
It's not about being angry, it's about understanding your "logic"...both Lauri and Hart started their second contracts *this* season and are currently playing their 5th season...Lauri has played more minutes in his career than Hart has in his. The only "vet" experience Hart has over Lauri is the time he spent in college...
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College helps, but I think Lauri is a young vet too. The biggest difference is Lauri is starting over a bit playing a new position 80% of the time while hart has been playing wing all of his career.

But I never said Lauri wasnt a young vet, he is 5 years into his career, started allot, put up big numbers. I guess young vet entering his prime for both. I like Hart, it would be a good add.
 
Lee said:
College helps, but I think Lauri is a young vet too. The biggest difference is Lauri is starting over a bit playing a new position 80% of the time while hart has been playing wing all of his career.

But I never said Lauri wasnt a young vet, he is 5 years into his career, started allot, put up big numbers. I guess young vet entering his prime for both. I like Hart, it would be a good add.
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My first question after your post was if you viewed Lauri as a "vet presence"...
 
foucault87 said:
Rubio had been a pro for 7 years before coming to the NBA tho. And at a very high level since he was starting for Spain at 16. I dont think any NBA player other than Saba Sr and Pablo Prigoni had as much mileage going into their rookie years.
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Eric Gordon played more NBA minutes in the 3 years he was drafted before Ricky got to the NBA, than Ricky has played overseas for 15yrs (2005-2020; source: https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/ricky-rubio-1.html)...sooo, Eric Gordon played about 7000 minutes from 2008-09 to 2010-11. Ricky played about 5400 minutes from 2005-06 to 2010-11...
 
@adam81king

Do you think we can try to do both, add talent and pick up another draft pick?

I am not against moving Rubio and Sexton if it brings in the right long term talent... essentially if we can keep or acquire more future aspects. To me anyone whose not in our main 9 is expendable...
 
adam81king said:
The funny thing about Eric Gordon is he's almost 3yrs older than Ricky Rubio, and has played 3600 more NBA minutes in his career, but people have been worried about Ricky's mileage...
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Ricky is still onluy 31, my concern is he tore the same ligement in the same knee twice, That can be a career killer.
 
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adam81king said:
It's very clear that I'm the only one against selling assets for short term marginal improvements, and thats fine. I'll die on this hill alone. These suggestions feel like the Pelicans trading for Steven Adams (whom I love) and Eric Bledsoe.

My ideal trade deadline has zero trades for this team, and finish the year playing with house money. In the summer, resign Rubio, extend Garland, and make any other moves to supplement what was learned this season.
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I’m not in favor of trading core pieces unless we get a godfather offer. For me Allen, Mobley, Okoro and Garland are core pieces. If we can use other assets to improve I’m ok with that but first - do no harm.
 
sportscoach said:
@adam81king

Do you think we can try to do both, add talent and pick up another draft pick?

I am not against moving Rubio and Sexton if it brings in the right long term talent... essentially if we can keep or acquire more future aspects. To me anyone whose not in our main 9 is expendable...
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I don't think any realistic trade can net the Cavaliers another draft pick (ie, trading DG, JA, Mobley, Lauri, Okoro, etc), let alone a talent *and* another draft pick. Other than the 3 picks they have, the only pick I'd try to get is for Jaden Ivey, and going after him would need to be done on draft night, not before.

I'm OK moving Sexton for an asset, but im not moving Ricky Rubio unless he tells me he doesn't want to be here next year. If he wants to be in Spain, or play for another team, then I trade him. If he wants to stay, I keep him and resign him. I've seen the kind of benefit he's been to other young players/teams (Booker in Phoenix, Mitchell in Utah, Edwards in Minnesota ALL sing his praises), and how well he played here and the impact he's had on our team (and how they speak about him), and I want as much of that as this team keeps progressing as possible. There isn't someone they can realistically get (the names that have been mentioned) that would make enough of an impact this year, or in the future, to make me want to give up what Ricky does for this team.

Collin, Cedi, Pangos, Wade, *maybe* Cedi. Everyone else I want to keep through the rest of the year, at least.

I'm fully prepared to die on this hill alone.
 
cavsfever said:
Because we saw how good this team was with Rubio and how much pressure is on Garland now. So we can see how we need another really good two way player in the back court.
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Expecting Gordon to be anything but a Kevin Love at SG off the bench is abit much. You can't start him between DG and Lauri and expect our backcourt to have any defense. Rubio worked because his defense and playmaking was elite. Still though, JBB only used that combination for limited minutes with Rubio coming off the bench. If we're going to spend first round picks, I'd prefer going after longer-term wings like a 27 year old LaVert. I don't think we should do that either though. I think Koby needs to keep working on the margins for the bench until a major asset comes along and our young guys develop into their roles.
 
Speaking of building a bench on the margins, damn, Denver grabbed Forbes. Would've liked him here. That contract with his 3P% is a bargain.
 
foucault87 said:
Just bc Stevens won us a few games means you aren't going to trade for say Brandon Ingram if he is available bc Stevens was good? This is a more extreme example but someone like Eric Gordon has a very clear skillset that we can easily fit into the rotation. He would instantly be our 2nd best playmaker on the perimeter. You play Okoro a bit less, drop the rando wing mins of Stevens/Windler (one of whom is probably gone in such a trade), and probably play Cedi a bit less. 100% worth it.
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LOL!!! We don’t agree on a lot of issues but I 1,0000% agree with you here!
 
I think this is the trade that the Cavs should pursue:

Cleveland receives: Derrick White & Zach Collins
San Antonio receives: Collin Sexton & Ricky Rubio

Why?
Cleveland finds their Ricky Rubio replacement.
San Antonio gets a young guard with upside & dumps Zach Collin's contract.
 
JJ_PR said:
I think this is the trade that the Cavs should pursue:

Cleveland receives: Derrick White & Zach Collins
San Antonio receives: Collin Sexton & Ricky Rubio

Why?
Cleveland finds their Ricky Rubio replacement.
San Antonio gets a young guard with upside & dumps Zach Collin's contract.
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On paper I am not against this... Can Collins pass his physical? It's not like we don't need another big man anyways incase of injuries. His price is a bit steep, but I am not afraid of a gamble..
 
So uhh.. anyway we could pry Duarte from Indy? If they're going to blow it up, then blow it up.
 
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