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Cavs trade for 2019 lottery protected 1st, Knight, Chriss

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But when does the tank end?

I think we hope to have two years of top ten picks, so 20/21 would be the first season where you try to pull out of the tank.

It all depends on what the offer is, really. Would a team like the Kings with a ton of cap space and some nice young assets think about trading for Love to bring in a vet and some legitimacy to lure a FA in as well to supplement their young core of Fox, Hield, and Bagley? They could trade for Love and still have max money to throw at someone.

If the right offer comes, you make the move.

I really don't have the time this evening to write an opus on the Art of The Tank, but you are correct that some teams fall into a perpetual tank. In general, the most prominent way that occurs is either drafting the wrong young core within the Tank Window or never adding actual NBA talent to the young core. Signing Love to that contract at that length with his style of play lends itself very well to sticking to the plan.

I think the way certain players have been rested and featured throughout the past 50+ games can tell a seasoned NBA fan exactly who is and who is not put in a position to be traded. If the Cavs were planning to trade him or trying to win, Love wouldn't have been out this long.
 
This draft isn’t as highly regarded. The next 2 drafts have some real home run power, so if we’re able to get another pick I’d prefer it not be this year.

2021, they get Milwaukee's pick, so they have one for that and they almost certainly will get one between Henson, JR, Delly, Love and others in 2020.
 
3 of the last 8 Number 8 picks involved in this deal.

Stauskaus was 8th overall.
Chriss was 8th overall.
Knight was 8th overall.

8th overall picks really suck.
Young Bull is 8th overall :party smiley 004:
 
I really don't have the time this evening to write an opus on the Art of The Tank, but you are correct that some teams fall into a perpetual tank. In general, the most prominent way that occurs is either drafting the wrong young core within the Tank Window or never adding actual NBA talent to the young core. Signing Love to that contract at that length with his style of play lends itself very well to sticking to the plan.

I think the way certain players have been rested and featured throughout the past 50+ games can tell a seasoned NBA fan exactly who is and who is not put in a position to be traded. If the Cavs were planning to trade him or trying to win, Love wouldn't have been out this long.

I don't expect them to trade Love now. In the offseason or during next year? No idea. If the projections of the cap hold, his salary is 26.5% of the cap next year and 26.4% the following year, steadily falling after that. Price for production and experience is good if production can be maintained after injury. I think you always expect him to miss at least 20 games, but that's okay.

Have no problem with him staying, but if someone knocks the Cavs' socks off with an offer, they may pull the trigger. Many have speculated that could happen in the offseason with tons of cap out there for teams that whiff on big names and need to do something. As I've posted, the Kings are one of those potential clubs, but there are others out there - including some teams in LA.
 
Still confused about the 2nd round pick.

ESPN mentions no 2nd rounder in their story.

Yahoo sports mentions a 2nd rounder from Cle to Sac....but gives credit to ESPN

Sam Amick on Twitter said the 2nd rounder was from Houston, not Cle.

Wojnarowski says nothing about a second. Fedor also doesn't say anything.

Haynes and Shams at the Atlantic say the Cavs are giving up a second to the Kings. I don't see any reason why Sac would be getting a second in this deal?
 
Wojnarowski says nothing about a second. Fedor also doesn't say anything.

Haynes and Shams at the Atlantic say the Cavs are giving up a second to the Kings. I don't see any reason why Sac would be getting a second in this deal?

So Shams vs. Woj.

I like Shams, but I'd put my money on Woj. Woj actually posted an article on it instead of just tweeting. The Athletic has yet to post an article.

I think Woj's report is more accurate. Shams and Haynes tweeted 3 hours ago. Woj's ESPN post is timed at 10:06PM. I'm guessing initial reports were a 2nd was involved but further digging showed it wasn't included.
 
Hoping nets will give us Nuggets pick + Crabbe for JR Smith. Doubtful but would he a good get. Nets wanna be players in FA and Crabbe is sure to pick up his 18 M option and put a wrench in their FA plans.
I have a feeling the Cavs are stuck with that asshole until his contract is up. No trade rumors in months for that clown.
 
Nobody wants the Rockets late first-rounders...
 
Nobody wants the Rockets late first-rounders...
Getting old now.

We're a team in rebuilding.

We need every kind of 1st round pick we can take.

You do know it is possible to find a gem, or I mean, get lucky and find a gem!!

A guy like Kuzma was taken at #27, shit can and will happen.

Luck is still luck, and that's what we are trying for.

I'll take the Warriors 1st round pick too.
 
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Getting old now.

We're a team of rebuilding blocks together.

We need every kind of 1st round pick we can take.

You do know it is possible to find a gem, or I mean, get lucky and find a gem!!

A guy like Kuzma was taken at #27, shit can and will happen.

Luck is still luck, and that's what we are trying for.

I'll take the Warriors 1st round pick too.
There have been heaps of good players selected in that 20-28 range recently. Capela, Kuzma, LeVert, Siakam, Dejounte Murray, Anunoby, Nance, Bogdanovic.
 

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