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Cavs vs. Warriors -- 2017 NBA Finals

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Who wins?

  • Cavs in 4

    Votes: 23 8.4%
  • Cavs in 5

    Votes: 20 7.3%
  • Cavs in 6

    Votes: 146 53.1%
  • Cavs in 7

    Votes: 55 20.0%
  • Warriors in 7

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Warriors in 6

    Votes: 10 3.6%
  • Warriors in 5

    Votes: 7 2.5%
  • Warriors in 4

    Votes: 12 4.4%

  • Total voters
    275
  • Poll closed .
That's a pretty significant amount less than Tristan. Id have loved Tristan at 4/48.

But that Iggy thing is just pure speculation.

Yeah my math was awful earlier. it is certainly below Tristan's value. I do think JR is the better comparison though, and he's fairly in line with it.
 
Iggy will be 34 next year. He should fall off eventually????? Right? Right?
 
Listened to Kerr on the Lowe Post.

A lot of praise for Kyrie and LeBron. Both Lowe and Kerr spoke upon the historical greatness of this Cavalier team.

Cavs have two and a half playmakers.

Warriors have at least 9 and West/ZaZa know how to pass.

It's going to sound impossible but Tristan needs to learn how to dribble and pass better.

Love needs to be able to make more plays with the ball. He's completely capable of doing so.

There's no chance JR or Shumpert can put the ball on the floor without a turnover, miss and/or a bad shot.

Korver can't dribble.

There at least has to be some sort of threat when anyone not named LeBron or Kyrie puts the ball on the floor to consistently break a defense.
 
So, Pistons are looking to trade Andre Drummond and Reggie Jackson.

Do you think either of those guys would be able to help us against the Warriors?

If yes, whats the max you would be willing to give for either?
 
So, Pistons are looking to trade Andre Drummond and Reggie Jackson.

Do you think either of those guys would be able to help us against the Warriors?

If yes, whats the max you would be willing to give for either?
Depends if Reggie Jackson is willing to be a sixth man... He forced his way out of OKC because he wanted to start. So, if that's the case, I wouldn't trade for him. He could be a nice backup PG, though. I do worry, however, if he solves the no-LeBron lineups... Jackson is not a great facilitator.

I don't think I'd give anything for Drummond. He's consistently a below average rim protector, terrible switch defender, and underwhelming rebounder. With his athleticism, Drummond should be elite at rim protection and rebounding, but he doesn't. He has the potential to be a top-5 center in the NBA, I'm just not sure I want to make an experiment out of him with the Cavs.
 
New 538 post up which concludes what I've been saying here during The Finals -- Curry, not Durant, is the key to the Warriors. Also says that the Warriors likely did not need Durant to be as good as they are, or very close to it. I agree, as I have said on here previously.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ed-kevin-durant-to-be-this-good/?sf89486858=1

Whatever we do to stop the Warriors has to start with containing Curry. I'm pretty sure Lue feels this way as well.

On the other hand, having a player who could help us contain Durant would be nice. And it'd be good if that player were younger than Jefferson.
 
Depends if Reggie Jackson is willing to be a sixth man... He forced his way out of OKC because he wanted to start. So, if that's the case, I wouldn't trade for him. He could be a nice backup PG, though. I do worry, however, if he solves the no-LeBron lineups... Jackson is not a great facilitator.

I don't think I'd give anything for Drummond. He's consistently a below average rim protector, terrible switch defender, and underwhelming rebounder. With his athleticism, Drummond should be elite at rim protection and rebounding, but he doesn't. He has the potential to be a top-5 center in the NBA, I'm just not sure I want to make an experiment out of him with the Cavs.
I personally do not want Drummond. As you said he doesnt affect the game like he should.

Also, 38% free throw shooter.
 
Our whole defense was set to stop curry

We played kd like the second option bitch that he is

Our centers had no chance , one turned into TT and the other LBJ had nothing left come 4th quarter
 
I personally do not want Drummond. As you said he doesnt affect the game like he should.

Also, 38% free throw shooter.

Drummond would get ran off the floor so fast...

Reggie Jackson is intriguing but his ego is bigger than his total contribution.
 
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New 538 post up which concludes what I've been saying here during The Finals -- Curry, not Durant, is the key to the Warriors. Also says that the Warriors likely did not need Durant to be as good as they are, or very close to it. I agree, as I have said on here previously.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ed-kevin-durant-to-be-this-good/?sf89486858=1

Whatever we do to stop the Warriors has to start with containing Curry. I'm pretty sure Lue feels this way as well.

On the other hand, having a player who could help us contain Durant would be nice. And it'd be good if that player were younger than Jefferson.

Praying Derrick Williams makes that jump. He has the physical ability and should see playing time if Jefferson retires (provided he signs back with us).



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Listened to Kerr on the Lowe Post.

A lot of praise for Kyrie and LeBron. Both Lowe and Kerr spoke upon the historical greatness of this Cavalier team.

Cavs have two and a half playmakers.

Warriors have at least 9 and West/ZaZa know how to pass.

It's going to sound impossible but Tristan needs to learn how to dribble and pass better.

Love needs to be able to make more plays with the ball. He's completely capable of doing so.

There's no chance JR or Shumpert can put the ball on the floor without a turnover, miss and/or a bad shot.

Korver can't dribble.

There at least has to be some sort of threat when anyone not named LeBron or Kyrie puts the ball on the floor to consistently break a defense.

TT is not going to learn how to dribble and pass. We need to TRADE him for someone who can dribble and pass. TT has topped out, and his ceiling ain't that high.
 
You always trade high and right now we would be trading TT at his lowest value
 
You always trade high and right now we would be trading TT at his lowest value
This board is hilarious with that concept.

Any time Shump, or dwait would have a few good games it's all "you can't trade this guy! He finally gets it!!"
 
This board is hilarious with that concept.

Any time Shump, or dwait would have a few good games it's all "you can't trade this guy! He finally gets it!!"

This why you only trade them both and Shump I feel will be traded almost for sure. However is Shump, TT, and Frye can lets say get you a Butler type you do it. Now the Bulls would laugh off the phone. However maybe a pissed off west team might give us something... This off season is going to be way more hectic or boring and I and I hate it all.
 

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