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Cleveland Browns 2020 Regular Season: What a Ride!

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I watched on my phone while playing the pixies for a Just-2 year old who can somehow now sing the chorus for “where is my mind?” So some details are absent from my viewing. Did Redwine get burn defensively?
Kudos for the music education for your 2 yr old. Pixies and Frank Black had a great run through the 90s. Never noticed Redwine once, I did see Harrison a couple times, a step slow in reacting, understandably.
 
I watched on my phone while playing the pixies for a Just-2 year old who can somehow now sing the chorus for “where is my mind?” So some details are absent from my viewing. Did Redwine get burn defensively?

Redwine only played special teams. Sendejo has been so bad, especially in run support, that it might change. Harrison played 6 total snaps.
 
I admittedly missed that Conklin would be out prior to the game. Is his injury status major or is he expected to return next week? He was mauling people against Baltimore.
 
I admittedly missed that Conklin would be out prior to the game. Is his injury status major or is he expected to return next week? He was mauling people against Baltimore.

He was active on the roster last night. Kevski said that Conklin wanted to play really badly but they decided to start Hubbard and only use Conklin as a backup in case of emergency. So I imagine with a long rest he should be good to go for week 3.
 
Redwine only played special teams. Sendejo has been so bad, especially in run support, that it might change. Harrison played 6 total snaps.

Redwine was actually the over the top safety who got dusted for the lone deep TD to the right end if I recall cprrectly.
 
The only reason this wasnt a solid A game for baker was that pick in the 4th quarter. That lowered him in my book to a B+. He had 1.5 what i would consider significant mistakes. The INT and the grounding (which while technically grounding ive seen happen 100 times and almost never is a QB called for it) and the rest of the game was clean.

Besides that he was accurate- 70% completion rate, made quick reads, and hit the big play when he needed to. He wasnt ask to win the game instead he was ask to be a competent QB, and thats exactly what he was. His 9.5 Y/A over a full season would have ranked him 2nd in the NFL from last year. Not sure what game you were watching, maybe it was a replay of last week? but the rest of us saw the same QB from 2018 that could actually be a franchise QB
His stats were great. He's obviously a good thrower with power and accuracy. But he was staring down reads and not seeing things.

Go back and watch the play where he scrambled to the left on third down and picked up the first. OBJ beat his man within one step of getting off the line and there was no safety over the top. A half second after the play began, we had a touchdown that our qb missed.

Obviously it's nitpicking. Obviously not every QB hits every read every play. But its an example of thongs Baker can do to move himself from the "do we stick with him as our franchise qb?" Discussion and into the echelon of the franchise quarterbacks in the league.

It's a good game for him. I hope positive results lead to a more comfortable situation, which fosters more growth. But I'm not all of a sudden convinced he's done growing and this game showed a qb that's polished, refined, and good enough to not question.
 
Redwine was actually the over the top safety who got dusted for the lone deep TD to the right end if I recall cprrectly.

That was Ronnie Harrison.

Harrison screwed that up. Money Mitch was playing a short zone and Harrison should've been making his way over there sooner, because the seam was man-to-man and covered. His responsibility was that deep corner. Great throw and timing by Burrow, but poor recognition by Harrison on that play.
 
That was Ronnie Harrison.

Harrison screwed that up. Money Mitch was playing a short zone and Harrison should've been making his way over there sooner, because the seam was man-to-man and covered. His responsibility was that deep corner. Great throw and timing by Burrow, but poor recognition by Harrison on that play.

You are correct.

Thought it was Redwine because he used to wear 33.
 
I was looking at this play second by second... it's pretty insane. Burrow was gonna get drilled and possibly fumble the ball. Myles trips on Jonah's feet, and Burrow luckily steps up just enough to avoid Myles who was reaching toward him. SUPER lucky and fortunate for Burrow.

But the scary part is looking at our safeties. Karl Joseph lets a guy go right buy him. Wide open if Burrow launches the ball. I don't know if it was a screwup by Joseph or if Mitchell was supposed to play that deep zone. Our secondary has to fix a LOT of issues.

 
Porter Gustin was also extremely good.

But Garrett apparently had more pressures last night than the Bengals as a team have had all year. Insane, man.

I'm very interested in watching Washington vs. Arizona this Sunday. I think they have a good pass rush but I also think the numbers are a bit inflated due to facing an injury-ridden Eagles offensive line (who were also missing Miles Sanders so they had absolutely no rushing attack to try to mitigate the issue). It was a recipe for disaster.

Not guaranteeing a W or anything but I think we're gonna be a tough matchup for them with our ground attack.

I'll say this, Wentz is not very good if his line is beat up. He takes a lot of hits and is generally giving up too many sacks when, specifically, Lane Johnson isn't there. Washington has a great defensive line, but I'll take the Browns offensive line. The rest of their team, specifically their offensive line, is pretty bad. The Browns are a bad matchup for them, IMO.

His stats were great. He's obviously a good thrower with power and accuracy. But he was staring down reads and not seeing things.

Go back and watch the play where he scrambled to the left on third down and picked up the first. OBJ beat his man within one step of getting off the line and there was no safety over the top. A half second after the play began, we had a touchdown that our qb missed.

Obviously it's nitpicking. Obviously not every QB hits every read every play. But its an example of thongs Baker can do to move himself from the "do we stick with him as our franchise qb?" Discussion and into the echelon of the franchise quarterbacks in the league.

It's a good game for him. I hope positive results lead to a more comfortable situation, which fosters more growth. But I'm not all of a sudden convinced he's done growing and this game showed a qb that's polished, refined, and good enough to not question.

I think he did a half decent job going off his reads, but he did take a tick slow, which could be him not knowing the offense totally yet. However, as Stefanski has put it, the Browns put in a lot of simple, pretty black and white reads and Baker generally was making the right decision.

When he gets more naturally into the system and can play without thinking but rather reacting to the defense and it's coverages, he should be making quicker reads. Until then, Stefanski needs to script plays out on the perimeter because Baker is incredible on those plays. That throw to OBJ while rolling was a throw that maybe 5 QBs in the NFL can make.
 
Porter Gustin was also extremely good.

But Garrett apparently had more pressures last night than the Bengals as a team have had all year. Insane, man.



I'll say this, Wentz is not very good if his line is beat up. He takes a lot of hits and is generally giving up too many sacks when, specifically, Lane Johnson isn't there. Washington has a great defensive line, but I'll take the Browns offensive line. The rest of their team, specifically their offensive line, is pretty bad. The Browns are a bad matchup for them, IMO.



I think he did a half decent job going off his reads, but he did take a tick slow, which could be him not knowing the offense totally yet. However, as Stefanski has put it, the Browns put in a lot of simple, pretty black and white reads and Baker generally was making the right decision.

When he gets more naturally into the system and can play without thinking but rather reacting to the defense and it's coverages, he should be making quicker reads. Until then, Stefanski needs to script plays out on the perimeter because Baker is incredible on those plays. That throw to OBJ while rolling was a throw that maybe 5 QBs in the NFL can make.
As long as we play to Baker's strengths, we'll be in great shape. Play action, rolling out of the pocket, vertical strikes especially to the boundary and up the seams. Those are areas where Baker is one of the best quarterbacks in football. He's the best in the game at throwing on the rollout to a receiver on the boundary who is coming back to him.

Those also happen to naturally be a lot of the playcalls in Stefanski's system.

I don't want my criticisms to be taken like I want to draft another qb or start Keenum a la @Los216. I know what Baker does well, and now I want him to be in an organization successful enough for him to develop in areas where he is still weak. I think we are that place. I'd be more confident if our off-season didn't get COVID-dicked.
 
As long as we play to Baker's strengths, we'll be in great shape. Play action, rolling out of the pocket, vertical strikes especially to the boundary and up the seams. Those are areas where Baker is one of the best quarterbacks in football. He's the best in the game at throwing on the rollout to a receiver on the boundary who is coming back to him.

Those also happen to naturally be a lot of the playcalls in Stefanski's system.

I don't want my criticisms to be taken like I want to draft another qb or start Keenum a la @Los216. I know what Baker does well, and now I want him to be in an organization successful enough for him to develop in areas where he is still weak. I think we are that place. I'd be more confident if our off-season didn't get COVID-dicked.

I think we'll see him progress to that type of system, but it might not bee until next year.
 
I think we'll see him progress to that type of system, but it might not bee until next year.
Agreed. But... we're further ahead in week 2 than I thought we'd be.

If anyone goes back and watches film, what did you think of Wills? There were a couple times he caught my eye during the live watch for getting beat, but it was intentionally passing off a guy to the guard inside of him, which kind of feels like an advanced technique for this early on... and one he executed with ease
 
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