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Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

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What Resolves First?

  • Collin Sexton's Restricted Free Agency

    Votes: 19 38.8%
  • Baker Mayfield's Tenure with the Browns

    Votes: 30 61.2%

  • Total voters
    49
  • Poll closed .
The end of the article has a good point with how they need to trend lightly with demoting Sexton though. I think this team doesn't have the talent to justify doing so this season. Sexton hasn't hit his ceiling and to demote him now without a clearly better player doing so, is going to rub him and his people the wrong way.

That was always going to be the problem. Both of them needed to get a lot of minutes as a starting point guard to help them develop into that role, or to see if it was possible for them to play that position. But only one guy can start. And starting them together as a pair doesn't work offensively or defensively. So now, we're apparently going to take the guy who is outplaying the other guy, and bench him. Before we've even figured out if Garland is ever truly going to become a good NBA PG.

So...you're right. Benching Sexton when he's outplaying Garland isn't going to go over well, nor should it.
 
That was always going to be the problem. Both of them needed to get a lot of minutes as a starting point guard to help them develop into that role, or to see if it was possible for them to play that position. But only one guy can start. And starting them together as a pair doesn't work offensively or defensively. So now, we're apparently going to take the guy who is outplaying the other guy, and bench him. Before we've even figured out if Garland is ever truly going to become a good NBA PG.

So...you're right. Benching Sexton when he's outplaying Garland isn't going to go over well, nor should it.

I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. I think they play out the rest of this seasom together as our starting backcourt. Whoever we draft in 2020 might make it clearer who is the better fit long term but my guess is they will still be out start backcourt for most if not all of 2020-2021.

Hopefully they stagger them more as time goes on. I do think both can work to take up all of the 48 minutes at the PG spot and one just ends up being more of a starter in name.
 
How is he not “good”? He’s leading the team in points and clearly has room to grow before he hits his ceiling. He still makes some poor decisions and could be better, but considering the situation he is in I think he is at least good. He’s no doncic or trey young, but he’s also not a natural passer. Unrelated-ish: I think we should prob give him the ball more in clutch situations over some of our vets. I can’t watch KLove brick another big Q4 shot
He doesn't score efficiently, doesn't pass, too small to be a shooting guard which he clearly is, low iq. He scores the most because he takes 4 more shots a game than the next highest. Just not a good player
 
I know it is a small thing, but Sexton is much better this season at the pass-to-assist. He had a great one last night where he passed to Cedi while driving and Cedi threw it to Garland who hit a three.
 
I agree we got to see what Sexton and Garland grow in to. They might end up being #2 or #3 options if we are able to find a true #1 option. Until we have or develop someone that is a true #1 option then we just need to keep developing what we have. We won't know who works best with that #1 option between Garland and Sexton or any one of young guys we have.

Demoting now or promoting guys that eventually will be demoted will build bad blood with the organization. I hope we just stay pat with the starting lineup and adjust the rotations to see who works best with each other. This team isn't close to being a finish product and the unknown pieces will probably have more of an impact on who are long term starter than anything else.

No one on the team is going to be mad that they haven't been promoted to a starter because our leading scorer is in that slot. Demoting your leading scorer will most likely have bad ramification in some way.

That’s why I begin by starting Delly alongside Young Bull and letting Garland run the second unit, until he gets more efficient. Then, once you unload Clarkson, make Young Bull the new Clarkson, and start Garland and KPJ in the backcourt. The only way that Young Bull is a future starter is if your PG has length, so he might be of more value to some other team ANYWAY (unless KPJ develops really quickly as a play-maker).
 
That’s why I begin by starting Delly alongside Young Bull and letting Garland run the second unit, until he gets more efficient. Then, once you unload Clarkson, make Young Bull the new Clarkson, and start Garland and KPJ in the backcourt. The only way that Young Bull is a future starter is if your PG has length, so he might be of more value to some other team ANYWAY (unless KPJ develops really quickly as a play-maker).

I think that's jumping the gun to put a plan like that in motion. You have to know who your #1 option is before you start making plans that could alienate one of our young players. For all we know is our #1 option ends up playing better with Sexton than Garland. I think until we have a #1 option on the roster, we just keep rolling with the idea that they might end up being Lillard and Mccollum. Maybe we stagger them more than Beilein has currently so they can both develop better with pieces that fit their style of play.
 
You can develop passing and court vision.

You can't go from Jordan Clarkson to Steve Nash but you can certainly learn how to run a proper pick&roll and how to use your scoring ability to help improve your ability to make plays for others.
 
ITS seems strange that if you do not have a labron or a rich paul connection how people on this board run down a player whether it was KYRIE or now Sexton.
I would argue that it's typically the exact opposite. Being a Klutch client certainly has a negative connotation to it on this board.

Cleveland loved Kyrie, he was embraced, but none of that mattered to him. That's fine, he has different priorities, but whatever ill will there is toward Kyrie here was rightfully earned.
 
You can develop passing and court vision.

You can't go from Jordan Clarkson to Steve Nash but you can certainly learn how to run a proper pick&roll and how to use your scoring ability to help improve your ability to make plays for others.
Kinda like Billups, came in as a pg that plays more like a sg... But later in his career learned to set up plays, still not a natural pg but learned to setup guys and learned to be more selective with his shots
 
You can develop passing and court vision.

You can't go from Jordan Clarkson to Steve Nash but you can certainly learn how to run a proper pick&roll and how to use your scoring ability to help improve your ability to make plays for others.

It looks to me like Beilein has actually asked him to play some pg lately and Collin has obliged. He is driving and kicking better, and his dump offs to TT have been more precise. It is going to take him longer. He isn't as good as Garland about keeping his head up. I think he has some vision, he just isn't always employing it. He has to be reminded.

A few good assist games here and in general Collin is much better when he is moving the ball, even if he isn't generating assists directly we saw some of those 5 and 6 pass plays against the Bucks and against Portland. The starting unit actually looks very good when we see that kind of passing.
 
Sexton seems to be the only guy who plays hard in every game, blowout or otherwise. We were getting destroyed last night and he continued to try and win.

I am probably lower on his ceiling than most posters, but he clearly loves the sport and wants to win, which is more than 70% of this team.
 
Sexton seems to be the only guy who plays hard in every game, blowout or otherwise. We were getting destroyed last night and he continued to try and win.

I am probably lower on his ceiling than most posters, but he clearly loves the sport and wants to win, which is more than 70% of this team.

That's why I dont understand the hate fans has for him. I understand, he needs to get his assists up (even though his teammates don't knock down shots half the time) but fans treat him likes a ten year veteran when this is is sophomore year.

I rather Sexton than Cedi any day of the week.
 
Another thing Colin has going for him is durability, at least so far. Played every game last season and takes his share of hits in a game. I like him although I acknowledge that he and Garland and the height issues may not be good for us going forward.
 

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